Talk:Syrian Social Nationalist Party

bias against the party: *alleged* fascism
if it's officially denied then why include it there? 2A02:E0:8E6F:6C00:C47B:7774:714A:DFDE (talk) 22:26, 4 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Because Nazi organisatons notoriously lie about themselves to avoid scrutiny. The real question is why the box includes that it's officially denied (and the answer is pro-SSNP/Assad editors)69.157.2.238 (talk) 18:52, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The reason it says it's officially denied is because that is the official stance of the party. You can choose to believe that official stance or not, but that's your opinion. For a wikipedia page to be valuable it must include all of the facts, including the statements made by the party as well as claims against those statements.
 * I noticed that you reverted all of my recent edits with the explanation of "Wikipedia is not a soapbox for Nazi sympathizers". Care to explain which parts of my edits were inaccurate? Hopoxal607 (talk) 19:19, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * That is absolutely not the official stance of the SSNP, it's simply a statement the SSNP makes towards western audiences to improve its image abroad. The SSNP is extremely supportive of Nazism still and there are plenty of reliable sources demonstrating that fact, but two (now apparently three) POV-pushing editors are clearly going out of their way to ignore the overwhelming quantity of sources verifying that fact. Beyond that, you have removed references to an entirely valid source and tried to create a whole section citing party materials. 69.157.2.238 (talk) 11:56, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * If western audiences claim that the party is fascist and the party denies those claims, then the claim that the party is fascist is officially denied. What else would "officially denied" mean?
 * You've also mentioned here that the "SSNP is extremely supportive of Nazism". Can you share evidence of this claim from reliable sources? Hopoxal607 (talk) 16:35, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * the SSNP has been critical to the Nazi ideology since the start, proven by Antun Saadeh's speech in June 1935. Durranistan (talk) 21:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * there's already been several example sources used that have been rejected without discussion by SSNP-sympathetic editors, here's one example:

https://www.newarab.com/news/syrias-assad-hizballah-courting-german-neo-nazi-group — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.156.106.118 (talk) 01:12, 29 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Going to add that party supporters and the SSNP itself have been directing people towards the Wikipedia page. It's very obvious that many, if not all, of these edits trying to whitewash the party are being done by party supporters abroad. 69.157.3.57 (talk) 01:53, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Deutschland Uber Alles
This is factually untrue please listen to the SSNP anthem and confirm that it has nothing to do with Deutschland Uber Alles 90.255.134.19 (talk) 19:58, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 March 2024
Change "...advocates the establishment of a Greater Syrian nation state spanning the Fertile Crescent, including present-day Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Kuwait, Jordan, Palestine, Cyprus, Sinai, Hatay Province, and Cilicia..."

To "advocates the establishment of a Greater Syrian nation state spanning the Fertile Crescent, including present-day Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Kuwait, Jordan, Palestine, Israel, Cyprus, Sinai, Hatay Province, and Cilicia"

Original writer does not mention Israel which is a very relevant piece of information in regards to the political climate in the region 2A02:14F:17D:C11E:E16B:D1D1:51C5:C025 (talk) 16:02, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ I added this to the lead. The source for this sentence does not mention any of these states by name, but the geographic boundaries clearly include Israel and it is already mentioned in the body of the article. Thanks. Jamedeus (talk) 18:28, 23 March 2024 (UTC)