Talk:Systers

Editathon warning
This page is being edited at an editathon at the Grace Hopper conference on 2012-10-04 EDT (UTC-4). Many new editors may be working on this article LeslieCarr (talk) 21:39, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Contested deletion
This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... Systers is a sizable computing organization which has contained many very influential computer scientists. While there is a small stubby subarticle underneath Anita Borg's main article, it is large and influential enough to have its own article. --LeslieCarr (talk) 08:13, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Leslie, at this point, the article merely presents content about a mailing list, rather than an organization. Nothing is here to indicate significance and/or importance of the mailing list itself. I would suggest userfying the article and drafting it in your userspace, allowing you to develop and present the subject through significant coverage in reliable and independent sources. Short of that, I would suggest merging the content back to the Anita Borg article or creating an article about the Anita Borg Institute, rather than their mailing list. Hope this helps. Cindy  ( talk to me ) 08:39, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Contested deletion
This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... The Systers mailing list is very active and is the oldest mailing list for professional women in computer science and technology. I believe the links provided in this article adquately attest to its notability, but if not, let me know and I will provide further info. Additionally, this article and other related not-yet-created articles will be the subject of a Wikipedia gender gap editathon to be held at the Grace Hopper conference in early October. --Gruepig (talk) 08:33, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The information that you provide here is nonexistent in the article itself. It is important to indicate how the subject is significant and/or important. The links do not support notability, since they are not independent of the subject. If you can add the information that the mailing list itself is the "oldest mailing list for professional women in computer science and technology", then support that claim through reliable and independent sources, that would help establish notability. Keep in mind that the general notability guidelines require significant coverage about the subject, through reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Again, hope this helps. If you have questions, please feel free to contact me. I am more than happy to help. Cindy  ( talk to me ) 08:39, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. I've just added a couple of independent sources and will continue to work on this article. Gruepig (talk) 23:00, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, Geek Feminism and blogs aren't reliable sources generally. And I read GF and write for their wiki, so don't think it's personal. It's a primary source, and since we rely on third party reliable sources we need more press and media coverage than anything else. I'll see if I can find some things, but, I won't be able to in a timely manner due to my own on wiki backlog. But, the more press coverage we can find the better, if possible. SarahStierch (talk) 17:42, 23 October 2012 (UTC)