Talk:TCG Muavenet (DM 357)

Did America take responsibility?
Did the USA give a new replacement ship to the turkish as reparation? I heard the turkish ship was so badly damaged it had to be dismantled. 82.131.210.162 11:34, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, My name is ET1(SW) Phillips. I was actually there on the Saratoga when this event happened. I was part of the Electronics division aboard the ship when it fired upon the Turkish ship. I wa also part of the Medical emregency Responce team that boarded the Turkish ship to help rescue the seamen there. It was a gint heap of bodies and wounded. I still have nightmares because of that event, it was chaos and I ended up taking a bullit because of the Turkish security forces thinking they were being invaded. The language barrier, the blod and guts, what a huge mess. Its sureal even after all these years gone by. I am truely sorry for those men we, the USS Saratoga crew, the US Navy, and myself being a part of the responce team for the mess we caused. Its very sad for some of the families that will never see their loved ones again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.238.237.105 (talk) 16:03, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

That day changed my life, as well as those around me.
I was a crewchief on a Ch-46E. It was our task that day to take the Color Gaurd, and the five caskets into Ankara. We had to stop on the Saratoga on the return trip to fuel up as our ship was further off the coast. While on deck fueling, the tower asked if we would take a patient, whos condition was upgraded to critical, to Ankara. We were told if he remained aboard ship that there would be nothing they could do, he needed to be taken to a real hospital. As we were onloading, I had to use safety wire to keep the plasma and other I.V's to the airframe. The Turkish sailor was as we were told, was in very bad shape. As we landed in Ankara, the Turks were not ready for us. We were instanly surrounded, with rifles, machineguns, and tanks all pointing their weapons at us. As I finally explained that the wounded I had aboard, was one of their own, an ambulance was backed up to my helocopter and the Turkish sailor was loaded up and the Navy Doctor as well got into the Turkish ambulance, and drove away. My pilots were not very pleased that I let the Navy doctor go with the patient. It happened so fast, I had nothing. There is a lot more to the story that I have decided to omit here, for obvious reasons. And to this day I do not know if the Turkish sailor lived or died. I would appreciate any info if anyone could help. As I said this day changed my life Joe TJoeShort (talk) 19:31, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Investigation
Was a full investigation carried out? I would be interested to know why supposedly supervising officers ignored "two separate requests from the missile system operator to clarify whether the launch order was an exercise", and why anyone was going through a drill or exercise which involved an anti-aircraft missile being fired (whether for real or as a simulation) against a NATO warship. I would have thought that the operator should have declined to fire such a missile at a very real and friendly ship. Even if he thought it was a real (if strange) order, it was clearly an illegal one.Royalcourtier (talk) 04:39, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Article needs retitling?
This article is not about the ship - that article, in fact, exists at USS Gwin (DM-33) - but about the 1992 incident. Now, the inicident clearly meets all the relevant standards for notability and should have an article. But, as that's this article, which is currently titled as being about the ship, the page should be clarified and moved, with its current title becoming a redirect to Gwin's article, which would then have a main article link in the Muavenet section to 1992 TCG Muavenet incident (working title). Thoughts? - The Bushranger One ping only 06:36, 17 August 2016 (UTC)