Talk:TN status

Canadians in the USA
Why is this section written exclusively for Canadians in the USA. It is the same procedure for Americans in Canada. Given the current statistical trend with Americans entering Canada on TN, this should be modified to reflect the relationship between both countries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.229.57.146 (talk) 00:09, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Stamped "Bad Alien"
This content sounds like it is an unverifiable personal experience and I cannot find any policy from USCIS that mirrors this. I've known several TN rejections, and this never happened. There are no cited sources.

I'm not removing it anymore. If anyone really cares about the topic, go ahead and try to make this entry meaningful as an encyclopedia.Offshore1 20:44, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I've been denied a TN Visa a number of times (because I didn't have the correct documentation) and I think they "withdrew" the application. I was fingerprinted and photographed then turned away... came back later with the correct documentation and was let in fine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.181.60.33 (talk) 16:12, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

TN-1
When I had a TN "visa", a lot of people (my employer's HR department, some customs people, etc) called it a "TN-1". Is that common enough that it should be mentioned in the article? -- Paul T —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.207.169.30 (talk) 22:18, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Based on the search results for our site, not at all. On our site, it accounts for less than 2% of the search terms, and tn-related keywords account for ~50% of our traffic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.176.197.56 (talk) 19:27, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Dubious
This is vandalism, right? I can't believe that if refused you'd be expected to give the medical conditions of your parents, spouse and children! I'll delete the statement in a day or two unless I hear otherwise. (EhJJ) 16:37, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I've removed the dubious (and almost certainly false) statement from the article. (EhJJ) 13:01, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Allowed occupations?
Is there a list of occupations that the TN status covers?


 * Here's the list from NAFTA Chapter Sixteen Appendix 1603.D.1.
 * I'm not sure if this list is the most updated one or not but it's the best I can find. I've added the following table to the main article.  If someone can do a better job at formatting it please go ahead, or if someone has a more up to date list of accepted professions please update the table.--Corilof (talk) 20:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Recognized TN Professionals

{|border="0" cellpadding="0" style="text-align:left; font-size: 95%; border-collapse: collapse; border'': 0px solid #AAAAAA;" !width=60%|Profession !width=40%|Minimum Education Requirements and Alternative Credentials
 * colspan=2|
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 A 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or C.P.A., C.A., C.G.A. or C.M.A.
 * valign=top|Accountant
 * valign=top|Accountant
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * valign=top|Agriculturist
 * including Agronomist
 * including Agronomist

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Animal Breeder
 * valign=top|Animal Breeder
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Animal Scientist
 * valign=top|Animal Scientist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Apiculturist
 * valign=top|Apiculturist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or state/provincial license
 * valign=top|Architect
 * valign=top|Architect
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Astronomer
 * valign=top|Astronomer
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 B 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Biochemist
 * valign=top|Biochemist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Biologist
 * valign=top|Biologist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 C 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Chemist
 * valign=top|Chemist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or Post-Secondary Diploma or Post-Secondary certificate, and three years experience
 * valign=top|Computer Systems Analyst
 * valign=top|Computer Systems Analyst
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 D 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Dairy Scientist
 * valign=top|Dairy Scientist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

D.D.S., D.M.D., Doctor en Odontologia or Doctor en Cirugia Dental; or state/provincial license
 * valign=top|Dentist
 * valign=top|Dentist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or state/provincial license
 * valign=top|Dietitian
 * valign=top|Dietitian
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * valign=top|Disaster Relief Insurance Claims Adjuster
 * claims adjuster employed by an insurance company located in the territory of a Party, or an independent claims adjuster
 * claims adjuster employed by an insurance company located in the territory of a Party, or an independent claims adjuster

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree, and successful completion of training in the appropriate areas of insurance adjustment pertaining to disaster relief claims; or three years experience in claims adjustment and successful completion of training in the appropriate areas of insurance adjustment pertaining to disaster relief claims
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 E 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Economist
 * valign=top|Economist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or state/provincial license
 * valign=top|Engineer
 * valign=top|Engineer
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Entomologist
 * valign=top|Entomologist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Epidemiologist
 * valign=top|Epidemiologist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 F 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or state/provincial license
 * valign=top|Forester
 * valign=top|Forester
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 G 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Geneticist
 * valign=top|Geneticist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Geologist
 * valign=top|Geologist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Geochemist
 * valign=top|Geochemist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * valign=top|Geophysicist
 * including Oceanographer in Mexico and the United States
 * including Oceanographer in Mexico and the United States

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or Post-Secondary Diploma or Post-Secondary Certificate, and three years experience
 * valign=top|Graphic Designer
 * valign=top|Graphic Designer
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 H 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Horticulturist
 * valign=top|Horticulturist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree in hotel/restaurant management; or Post-Secondary Diploma or Post-Secondary Certificate in hotel/restaurant management, and three years experience in hotel/restaurant management
 * valign=top|Hotel Manager
 * valign=top|Hotel Manager
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 I 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or Post-Secondary Diploma or Post-Secondary Certificate, and three years experience
 * valign=top|Industrial Designer
 * valign=top|Industrial Designer
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or Post-Secondary Diploma or Post-Secondary Certificate, and three years experience
 * valign=top|Interior Designer
 * valign=top|Interior Designer
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 J 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 K 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 L 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or state/provincial/federal license
 * valign=top|Land Surveyor
 * valign=top|Land Surveyor
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Landscape Architect
 * valign=top|Landscape Architect
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * valign=top|Lawyer
 * including Notary in the Province of Quebec
 * including Notary in the Province of Quebec

LL.B., J.D., LL.L., B.C.L. or Licenciatura Degree (five years); or membership in a state/provincial bar
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

M.L.S. or B.L.S. (for which another Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree was a prerequisite)
 * valign=top|Librarian
 * valign=top|Librarian
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 M 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or equivalent professional experience as established by statement or professional credential attesting to five years experience as a management consultant, or five years experience in a field of specialty related to the consulting agreement
 * valign=top|Management Consultant
 * valign=top|Management Consultant
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * valign=top|Mathematician
 *  including Statistician 
 *  including Statistician 

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or Post-Secondary Diploma or Post-Secondary Certificate, and three years experience
 * valign=top|Medical Laboratory Technologist (Canada)/Medical Technologist (Mexico and the United States) 
 * valign=top|Medical Laboratory Technologist (Canada)/Medical Technologist (Mexico and the United States) 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Meteorologist
 * valign=top|Meteorologist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 N 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Nutritionist
 * valign=top|Nutritionist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 O 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or state/provincial license
 * valign=top|Occupational Therapist
 * valign=top|Occupational Therapist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 P 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or state/provincial license
 * valign=top|Pharmacist
 * valign=top|Pharmacist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Pharmacologist
 * valign=top|Pharmacologist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * valign=top|Physician
 *  teaching or research only 
 *  teaching or research only 

M.D. or Doctor en Medicina; or state/provincial license
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * valign=top|Physicist
 * including Oceanographer in Canada
 * including Oceanographer in Canada

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or state/provincial license
 * valign=top|Physiotherapist/Physical Therapist
 * valign=top|Physiotherapist/Physical Therapist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Plant Breeder
 * valign=top|Plant Breeder
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Poultry Scientist
 * valign=top|Poultry Scientist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

State/provincial license; or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Psychologist
 * valign=top|Psychologist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 Q 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 R 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Range Manager/Range Conservationalist
 * valign=top|Range Manager/Range Conservationalist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Recreational Therapist
 * valign=top|Recreational Therapist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

State/provincial license; or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Registered Nurse
 * valign=top|Registered Nurse
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * valign=top|Research Assistant
 *  working in a post-secondary educational institution 
 *  working in a post-secondary educational institution 

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 S 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Possession of (a) theoretical knowledge of any of the following disciplines: agricultural sciences, astronomy, biology, chemistry, engineering, forestry, geology, geophysics, meteorology or physics; and (b) the ability to solve practical problems in any of those disciplines, or the ability to apply principles of any of those disciplines to basic or applied research
 * valign=top|Scientific Technician/Technologist 
 * valign=top|Scientific Technician/Technologist 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Social Worker
 * valign=top|Social Worker
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Soil Scientist
 * valign=top|Soil Scientist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * valign=top|Sylviculturist
 *  including Forestry Specialist 
 *  including Forestry Specialist 

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 T 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * valign=top|Teacher
 * College, Seminary or University teaching only
 * College, Seminary or University teaching only

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or Post-Secondary Diploma or Post-Secondary Certificate, and three years experience
 * valign=top|Technical Publications Writer
 * valign=top|Technical Publications Writer
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 U 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * valign=top|Urban Planner
 *  including Geographer 
 *  including Geographer 

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 V 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

D.V.M., D.M.V. or Doctor en Veterinaria; or state/provincial license
 * valign=top|Veterinarian
 * valign=top|Veterinarian
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Vocational Counsellor
 * valign=top|Vocational Counsellor
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 W 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 X 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 Y 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|


 * colspan=3|
 * colspan=3|

 Z 
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree
 * valign=top|Zoologist
 * valign=top|Zoologist
 * colspan=2|
 * colspan=2|

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Is "TN" the right terminology for Americans working in Canada or Mexico?
I thought TN only refers to Canadians and Mexicans working in the US. I know NAFTA grants Americans certain rights for working in Canada and Mexico but I don't think these are called "TN". Can someone verify this? Krubo (talk) 00:24, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Much of this article is strictly from the perspective of the US. The immigration law as well as the terminology and instrument for the work authorization as well as the process that a worker executes to obtain it under this Treaty is different in each of the three countries (US, Canada, Mexico). Rather than remove information and descriptions relevant to Canada and Mexico, it should remain in this article under a heading for each country. In US, it is defined as a TN visa under US immigration law. Not so in Canada or Mexico. In fact, in Canada, it is not even defined as a visa but rather Temporary Work Permit. Process and cost to apply for it are slightly different in each country. (talk) 22:10, 18 January 2019 (UTC)