Talk:Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (2010 video game)

Article title
Nice work on splitting this article off. However, any particular reason this is under the Japanese subtitle? In the English speaking reception, it's just called "Let Us Cling Together" or "Tactics Ogre PSP" or the like (and in the rare cases of referring to specifically the Japanese version, just calling it "Unmei no Wa" rather than translating it). And WP:NCVG indicates "Use the most commonly accepted English name first", and I think LUCT is pretty accepted in English. I'd think something like Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (PlayStation Portable game) or Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (2010 video game) would be better titles for the article. SnowFire (talk) 19:24, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I was basically thinking having two articles where "Tactics Ogre" was used extensively in the text would be confusing. I was writing both of these in my sandbox at the same time. I suppose "Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (2010 video game)" would work. It's what was done with the Trials of Mana remake. I was just exhausted from the amount of research and writing I'd needed to do for these articles. --ProtoDrake (talk) 19:32, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, just I think the current title is confusing too - I was wondering if there was some mysterious new Tactics Ogre announced at Nintendo Direct or the like when I saw this on the WPVG talk page, not having seen this version of the subtitle in English before. Maybe just calling it "the remake" or "PSP version" when needing to differentiate from Tactics Ogre SNES/PSX would be clear enough?  SnowFire (talk) 19:36, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Also, while I'm here - does the math add up on the dates in the lede? It says that Unmei no Wa only came about due to the success of FFT: WotL. But WOTL came out in 2007. Even assuming the first month's sales were strong enough to call it a success and greenlight the TOPSP project, wouldn't that be more like 3 & a half years of development? Unless they were doing some prepatory work without it being approved prior... just trying to avoid readers assuming there's a typo when they see 2007 + 4 = 2011, might be best to say 3 & a half years even if unwieldily extra detail. SnowFire (talk) 19:51, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I've done a little editing. Minagawa does confirm in multiple interviews that the remake was first conceived following the release of War of the Lions, so I've adjusted it to reflect that basic information. I think I got overexcited, or misremembered some info. My bad. --ProtoDrake (talk) 20:30, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

More on Reborn?
Given that Tactics Ogre: Reborn has substantial gameplay and presentation changes (including full voice acting and a massive rebalancing) to the point of getting all-new reviews, shouldn't we expand the Gameplay and Reception sections to reflect the same, perhaps by creating additional sections? I feel like the article will be rather outdated without that. Ilov90210 (talk) 18:53, 22 November 2022 (UTC)


 * In fact, we should even include additional notes on the development cycle too. Ilov90210 (talk) 18:57, 22 November 2022 (UTC)