Talk:Tadarida

Corsican?
Taḍḍarita is Sicilian, Rafinesque was in Palermo when first described this. You can check it on every sicilian vocabulary online. In Corsican is topu pinnutu. Even the source is probably wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.54.210.119 (talk) 11:28, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Source
I found the source of this "Corsican suggestion" and I linked it. It says explicitely that the word is taken from Sicilian Language: " Tadarida is  a  genus of  bat in  the family Molossidae, described by Constantine Samuel Rafinesque  (1783–1840).    He  published  the original  description  in  Palermo,  Italy,  in French, under the name Rafinesque-Schmaltz, with  the  title  “Précis  des  découvertes  et travaux  somiologiques  de  Mr.  C.S. Rafinesque-Schmaltz  entre  1800  et  1814” (Rafinesque-Schmaltz, 1814).  The derivation of  the  name  Tadarida  has  been  subject  to various  assumptions,  sometimes  quite imaginative  (Stangl  et  al.,  1993;  Ammerman et al.,  2012), and  often it  is assumed  that the name  means  nothing  and  was  invented  by Rafinesque (e.g., Gannon et al., 2005). Rafinesque, however, lived in Sicily from 1805  to  1815,  when  he  published  his description  of  a new  species  of  bat,  initially called  Cephalotes  teniotis  (Rafinesque-Schmaltz,  1814,  p.  12)  but  later  changed  to Tadarida  teniotis  (Correction,  p.  55). Even today, the  word  “tadarida,”  with  variations, including  taddarita,  taddarida,  tallarita, tallarida, and taddrarita, is frequently used in Calabria  and  Sicily  to  refer  generically  to “bat,”  regardless  of  species  (Pasqualino, 1790; Mortillaro, 1862; Forsyth Mayor, 1893; Garbini,  1925;  Eggenschwiler,  1934; Consolo,  1976;  Camilleri,  2001). The first mention  of  the  word  "tallarita"  dates  to  a manuscript in  Latin in  1348: "vespertilio  . .  . avis  noctua,  que  no  nisi  in  nocte  volat,  que dicitur  tallarita"  [bat. . .  nocturnal  bird  that flies  only  at  night,  which  is  called  tallarita] (Marinoni, 1955). These local names also are used for “bat” in Sicilian beliefs, legends, and poems (Pitrè,  1889). Therefore, Rafinesque did not invent the word but used a word from the  language  that  he  heard  during  his life  in Sicily. With good  grounds  the  etymology  of "tadarida"  is  from  Greek. The feminine Greek  noun  νυκτερίς  (nykterís)  =  "bat" [genitive  νυκτερίδος  (nykterídos)]  and became  "tadarida"  in  southern  Italy  (Sicily and  Calabria)  due  to  apheresis  and  dialect deformation  (Lanza,  2012). The Greek etymology is also supported by Forsyth Major (1893)  and  Garbini  (1925),  with documented steps through several Greek local dialects." https://www.researchgate.net/publication/292979623_Derivation_of_the_Generic_Name_Tadarida_Rafinesque_1814 --151.74.234.76 (talk) 12:28, 1 March 2020 (UTC)