Talk:Tadeusz Kościuszko/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Hawkeye7 (talk · contribs) 03:21, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria


 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * A. Prose quality:
 * Some issues; see comments below
 * B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
 * Some issues; see comments below
 * 1) Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
 * A. Has an appropriate reference section:
 * B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:
 * Some issues; see comments below
 * C. No original research:
 * 1) Is it broad in its coverage?
 * A. Major aspects:
 * B. Focused:
 * 1) Is it neutral?
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
 * File:Portret Tadeusz Kosciuszko.jpg could use a PD-Art tag
 * B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * hold
 * A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
 * File:Portret Tadeusz Kosciuszko.jpg could use a PD-Art tag
 * B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * hold
 * hold

Comments

 * 1) would be challenged by Kościuszko relatives->  would be challenged by Kościuszko's relatives ✅
 * 2) February, 1746 No comma after the month. Also: dates are in inconsistent format: some are dd mmm and some are mmm, dd Pick one. ✅ (all dates mm/dd)
 * 3) Kościuszko was the youngest son of a szlachta (Polish nobility) -> Kościuszko was the youngest son of a szlachta (Polish nobleman)✅
 * 4) Kościuszko family held the Polish coat of arms Roch -> The Kościuszko family held the Polish coat of arms Roch✅
 * 5) His family was ethnically Lithuanian-Ruthenian[10] traceable to ->  His family was ethnically Lithuanian-Ruthenian[10]  descended from ✅
 * 6) As most Polish-Lithuanian nobility of that time, -> Like most Polish-Lithuanian nobility of that time, ✅
 * 7) In 1768 a civil war arose in the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth -> In 1768 a civil war broke out in the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, ✅
 * 8) ''he found that his brother Józef has squandered most of their meager family's fortune -> he found that his brother Józef had squandered most of their meager family's fortune (Note US spelling. Are we supposed to be using US English?) ✅
 * 9) Kościuszko's first task in America was the fortification of Philadelphia. Repeating ourselves here ✅ (condensed wording)
 * 10) Maj. Gen. -> Major General. I'd prefer if ranks were not abbreviated ✅
 * 11) Brigadier Gen. Arthur St. Clair -> Brigadier General Arthur St. Clair ✅
 * 12) Halifax, VA -> Halifax, Virginia Don't abbreviate the states ✅
 * 13) Charles Cornwallis, 1st Marquess Cornwallis That's him, but he wasn't created a marquess until 1792. Should be the Earl Cornwallis ✅
 * 14) 500 acres Use a conversion template so we know how many hectares that is ✅
 * 15)  King Stanisław August promoted him to Lieutenant general lower case L ✅
 * 16)  By mid September he was resigned to leave the country -> By mid September he was resigned to leaving the country, ✅
 * 17) The death of Tsarine Catherine of Russia -> The death of Tsarina Catherine of Russia Also: link Tsarina ✅ (to two such links)
 * 18) The Tsar granted Kościuszko 12,000 rubles, which the Polish leader attempted in 1798 to return; also at that time denouncing the oath Who are we talking about here? Kościuszko or the King? (Who? -- the one who was granted 12,000 rubles. To "return" rubles, they must be "granted" first. No need to mention Kościuszko by name twice here.)
 * 19)  (letter from Napoleon to Fouché, 1807) Put this in the footnote ✅
 * 20) From 1801 he settled in Breville, near Paris Napoleon or Kościuszko? ✅ (Kościuszko settled there)
 * 21) None of the monies that Kościuszko had earmarked for the manumission and education of African Americans in the United States was ever used for that purpose. -> None of the monies that Kościuszko had earmarked for the manumission and education of African Americans in the United States were ever used for that purpose. ✅
 * 22) Polish historian Stanisław Herbst writing in 1967 entry in the Polish Biographical Dictionary noted  -> Polish historian Stanisław Herbst wrote in Kościuszko's entry in the 1967 Polish Biographical Dictionary  ???? ✅ (reworded statement)
 * 23) Polish American cultural Kosciuszko Foundation has been created -> A Polish American cultural Kosciuszko Foundation has been created in his memory. ✅
 * 24) Other biographies of him included -> Other biographies of him include ✅
 * 25) Later works included dramas -> Later works include dramas ✅
 * 26) Get rid of the .[citation needed]  tag ✅ (citation provided)
 * 27) Supply the page number required by footnote 4 ✅ (found by referencing Kościuszko Uprising article, source is written in Polish)
 * 28) Move the books in footnotes 35 and 83 into the bibliography (? see reply to comments)
 * 29) Get rid of the raw URLs in footnotes 86, 91 and 94 ✅
 * 30) Get rid of the tag in footnote 90 ✅

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I am surprised that the article is listed only as being on mid-importance by WP:Poland. I would have thought that any article referenced by the main Poland article would be of high importance. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:57, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm also surprised that this article is only of mid-importance to the Military history Project, given Kościuszko's involvement in the American Revolution, with Thomas Jefferson and the planning and construction of West Point . -- Gwillhickers (talk) 15:40, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I think the lead should summarize the article as a whole. We should include his legacy in there too. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:17, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, I will look into it. I am open to suggestions if you have any particular items in mind. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:23, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Replies to comments
Re comment 29 : The 'cite book' and 'cite web' templates use the ' url= ' parameter. Are you saying that the Url's contained in these all need to be deleted? -- Gwillhickers (talk) 00:20, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * No. That seems to be resolved now. The cite templates remove raw URLs. But there are still raw URLs in 88, 93 and 97. Hawkeye7 (talk) 02:45, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks Hawkeye. You're doing a fine job of directing affairs here and I will continue to follow your advice. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 05:19, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Re: comment 28 : Footnotes 35 and 83 already link to sources in bibliography. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 05:48, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * A few more comments. 1. Punctuation for dates and their format is incorrect/inconsistent--date-month-year is found in some paragraphs, month-date-year in others. I corrected a few comma errors for the first format, there may be more. 2. The use of hyphens also has a few errors here and there (I corrected one). 3. The bibliography is not in line with any format I know: bold print for last names is not acceptable in any format I know, and those entries are just odd in other ways, with "Url" as the text for URL links. Use of templates would make that disappear in one fell swoop. Some entries have years, others don't; Sužiedėlis has a page number so I presume a chapter/entry is cited but no title of such is given. Some entries have place names, others don't. Ottenberg is an article, but the title is in italics. One journal title is in all caps. I could go on--that entire section needs an overhaul and, again, the use of standard templates would go a long way to removing inconsistencies. Drmies (talk) 04:21, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * These are very useful edits. Drmies (talk) 15:45, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Comment GA does not require compliance with the full MOS. However, any attempt to take the article to A class or FAC will require the MOS issues to be dealt with. Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:37, 20 April 2013 (UTC)