Talk:Tailgate party

Tailgation
The term Tailgation is not a common word and does not extend anywhere except the inventors sports blog/column. I would suggest that the term Tailgation be either removed or clarified and the more common terms for groups of tailgaters be added to this section/definition. It is not a common term at all. Unless there are more references other than the inventors blog/column, this term will be changed. Tailgating is a very rapidly growing industry, and to be accurate is going to be important for all who are researching tailgating. Thanks. I suggest we give 2 weeks for the poster of this to provide some references to support both these claims. Or rewrite the definition to include other terms that are more common such as "party", "crew", "krewe", "club", etc... TailgateCensus (talk) 14:39, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Tailgate Census
Information has been added and sources cited for the new sentence referencing the 2010 Tailgate Census. TailgateCensus (talk) 21:55, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Tailgate Source
The so called source of tailgating has been removed from this page for a couple reasons. 1. there was no cite or proof that it began at Yankee satdium in 1960. 2. there are multiple stories published on several websites and in magazines that talk of tailgating starting in the early 20s at college games o the East coast. TailgateCensus (talk) 21:54, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Can someone please post a picture of Ole Miss tailgates? Those are easily the best tailgates in the nation, any sport, any level. The definition of tailgate. And no, I have no connection to Ole Miss; I'm just not biased. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.138.2.146 (talk) 23:55, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Great pic of the girl. Seen better pics of tailgating but it's still a great pic for what it is. 128.158.14.42 23:18, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

You might as well post pictures of LSU football games if you are going to add Ole Piss. There is no comparison, except for maybe Texas A&M tailgating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.107.214.66 (talk) 22:14, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Europe
The article’s statement about tailgating catching on in Europe cited an article at http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/sefton052605.html, but all that article says on the subject is, “Tailgating is so big, it's busted the borders and is catching on in Europe.” Not much of a citation, so I’ve removed the link. A better reference would be one that actually talks about tailgate parties in Europe. --Rob Kennedy 21:25, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Melrose
I’ve twice removed the “see also” link to the Party on Melrose at the University of Iowa. A search for the phrase doesn’t find me references to anything more than a simple house party. That’s clearly isn’t a tailgate party. And if there’s no article about it, it does readers a disservice to call special attention to a redlink for it. --Rob Kennedy 21:25, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Why does someone delete the link to Tailgating Times, yet keep links to crappy sites that are not updated???

Tailgating Times is a great forum for tailgating tips.

"Barbecuing" versus "Grilling"
I replaced the word "barbecuing" in the first paragraph with the phrase "grilling food" for a couple of reasons. First, the link was to the barbecue article, which focuses on styles of food called barbecue (such as the pork stuff in North Carolina or beef barbecue in Texas). The sentence, however, appeared to refer to the act of cooking food outdoors on a grill, and the barbecue article doesn't really talk about that very much. Second, the article on grilling specifically addresses the use of the term "barbecuing" as it's sometimes used to refer to outdoor cooking (I've used parentheses to insert clarifications here due to Wikipedia's technical use of brackets): "In contrast, in the United States and Canada, use of the word (i.e., 'grilling') refers to cooking food directly over a source of dry heat, typically with the food sitting on a metal grate that leaves 'grill marks.' In the UK and other Commonwealth countries this would be referred to as barbecueing, although grilling is usually faster and hotter than the American sense of the word 'barbecue,' which does not necessarily imply grill marks. Grilling is usually done outdoors on charcoal grills or gas grills, a recent trend is the concept of infrared grilling. Grilling may also be performed using stovetop 'grill pans,' which have raised metal ridges for the food to sit on."

Thus, while the word "barbecuing" is certainly sometimes used in the sense of a generic term for "cooking outdoors on a grill," including in various regions of the United States, and while people sometimes say "I'm having friends over for a barbecue this Saturday" when they're cooking chicken breasts or something, the use of "barbecuing" here was problematic, especially because it was coupled with a link to an article that focuses on the styles of food called "barbecue," rather than on an article that discusses what was intended. (Certainly some people do prepare barbecue for their tailgates. A friend of mine prepared 68 pounds of Boston butt for our tailgate before the Gator Bowl in January 2008. But the sentence appears to encompass the cooking of more ordinary stuff like burgers and hot dogs, not just "barbecue.")

I suppose another way to word the sentence would be "Tailgating often involves cooking out and consuming alcoholic beverages."

—1995hoo (talk) 22:05, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Lynn Swann photo
I added a photo of former Pittsburgh Steeler and 2006 candidate for Pennsylvania Governor Lynn Swann at a tailgate party at a Steelers-Eagles pre-season game on August 25, 2006. It is notable because this is a candidate for major office campaigning for votes during a tailgate party. It was covered in the Philly Inquirer. The photo from the event is courtesy. The photo has been released under the proper license and approved by OTRS.--Eclipse98 (talk) 15:20, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

2 editors support reverts of self-promoting spam additions promoting some magazine
Check the History. I am one.

This editor needs to STOP. Viva-Verdi (talk) 01:33, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Gallery
There are already a lot of good pictures that get the idea of the article across. The gallery section seems to be nothing more than a "Hey, here's what MY tailgate looks like" repository. 98.250.128.96 (talk) 03:45, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

page protected
This page has been protected to stop the silly edit war. Note to Beyond my Ken and Portillo: If it starts again when the protection expires in a week, other measures will be taken to make it stop. Neither of you needs to defend or explain why you are right. You are not. Neither of you. So just stop the silliness. That is all I have to say on this. -- Jayron  32  01:04, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, you are right, I got carried away. My apologies. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:50, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Tailgateless cars
Quote: Many people participate even if their vehicles do not have tailgates.

Don't practically all cars have a tailgate, i. e. rear door? Maikel (talk) 10:01, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Nope. My Olds has a trunk lid, but no tail gate. 2602:306:30BA:28A0:2D23:D464:7A28:75C0 (talk) 09:49, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Cleanup needed
The "Food and Drink" section has games listed and then there is a "Lawn games" section below with some of the same games. (BTW. "lawn games" is a confusing heading, since tailgating is usually done in parking lots. No lawn. 2602:306:30BA:28A0:2D23:D464:7A28:75C0 (talk) 09:49, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Ladder toss/ladder golf
I'm a bit confused. Aren't ladder toss and ladder golf talking about the same game? I see they have two separate articles linked. Kap 7 (talk) 01:14, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

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Use of 'tailgating' outside the US
Hi, the word 'tailgating' has a totally different meaning outside of North America. In British English, tailgating means 'driving dangerously close to the car in front'. The word is not used outside of that context.

I believe most other English speakers around the world only ever use the word in the British sense, (ie in New Zealand, Australia, India, etc). This may be because people outside of N.America don't routinely have parties around the tailgates of cars. They may well be unique to the US (and possibly Canada?).

I accept that there may not be an alternative word with the same meaning, but without an explanation of this fact (the earlier in the article, the better) the page will confuse (and\or annoy) the majority of English users. Thanks Codeye (talk) 01:15, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * FWIW this practice is called a 'boot picnic' in the UK, and tends to be for the affluent. Pheasant. Champers. Brie. It's not a beer and barbecue thing for plebs.2001:44B8:3102:BB00:D5EF:3985:2D2C:3966 (talk) 21:31, 28 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I don't understand the relevance of this. This article is at the title "Tailgate party", not "Tailgating".  I've checked the move log, and it reports that the page has never been at "Tailgating" or any other title.  As such, what, pray, makes you think even 1%, let alone 51%, of English people would be confused by an article called "Tailgate party" being about tailgate parties and not something totally different? — Smjg (talk) 15:06, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I can't answer that! I left the comment 4 years ago. Thanks for checking into it, though. All the best. Codeye (talk) 00:52, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Criticism section needed
Tailgating parties have become the most objectionable visitors to natural settings in the USA, e.g. river-side picnic spots, due to their noisy and oafish behaviour. Posses of jerks in baseball caps and tattoos with their gross troglodyte families turn up in their roaring crew-cab utes, drop the gate of their 'tub', hand out beers. They soon destroy the ambience of any peaceful place with their insensitive and selfish antics. Have at them here. 2001:44B8:3102:BB00:D5EF:3985:2D2C:3966 (talk) 21:36, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

"Many people participate even if their vehicles do not have tailgates."
I don't understand the relevance of this. Going by the opening statement, there has to be a vehicle with a tailgate (presumably the host's vehicle) for people to party around, but what could whether the guests' vehicles have tailgates – or even whether all guests have vehicles at all – possibly have to do with anything? — Smjg (talk) 14:54, 26 November 2023 (UTC)