Talk:Taipan (corporate title)

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For older discussions, see Talk:Tai-Pan (disambiguation).

Tai-Pan

 * Hmm... my source says that it literally meant Supreme (Tai) Leader (Pan). Is this Pan word indigenous to Chinese, or is it a loan from Mongolian or something? Alexander 007 09:43, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Your source is likely Noble House. That same book (or it might have been Tai-Pan - by the same author) claims that phrase was normally used by the Chinese for the manager of a public outhouse, and thus calling foreigners that way served to secretly belittle them. The Chinese would call themselves something similar, according to that book. Dorfl (talk) 16:54, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Add IPA
Say it is pronounced like .Jidanni (talk) 23:43, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Unnecessary tag
This article is a short, accurate explanation of a term. I see nothing controversial in it. Only controversial content calls for a source tag. The only fault is that the article is a stub. Considering the rich history of the subject, the article begs for expansion. J M Rice (talk) 18:21, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Requested move 26 November 2023

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Withdrawn by nominator (non-admin closure) BegbertBiggs (talk) 17:12, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Tai-pan → Taipan – WP:COMMONNAME: both OED and Merriam-Webster give the word as "taipan", no hyphen. Also, the word should not be italicized, since it appears in at least two major English dictionaries (per MOS:FOREIGNITALICS). SilverStar54 (talk) 05:50, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose: The snake has |Tai-pan more page views, and should stay at Taipan. I suppose there could be an argument that there is no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, but I wouldn't support that either. YorkshireExpat (talk) 09:39, 26 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @SilverStar54 and where do you want the snake article be moved to? – robertsky (talk) 13:44, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * My bad, overlooked the existence of the snake article. In that case, I suggest the article be moved to Taipan (business), or something similar. I still think it's confusing to use a non-standard spelling for the title (i.e., tai-pan). SilverStar54 (talk) 15:18, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd close this one down and start a new one. YorkshireExpat (talk) 16:17, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn Sounds good SilverStar54 (talk) 16:49, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 26 November 2023 (2)

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved. Clearly there's consensus to remove the hyphen from this article title. Whether or not the snake is the primary topic can be discussed at Talk:Taipan if so desired. (non-admin closure) BegbertBiggs (talk) 14:40, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Tai-pan → Taipan (corporate title) – WP:COMMONNAME: both OED and Merriam-Webster give the word as "taipan", no hyphen. Disambig is needed since taipan (the snake) is clearly the primary topic. SilverStar54 (talk) 19:05, 26 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 13:57, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. YorkshireExpat (talk) 22:01, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support Taipan (title), rename Taipan to Taipan (snake) and Taipan (disambiguation) to Taipan. No primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:52, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I have to disagree with moving taipan. The snake's page gets four-times as many views, as pointed out by YorkshireExpat. SilverStar54 (talk) 17:15, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Page views are not everything. Long-term significance is also a major factor. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:44, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 * What do you mean? SilverStar54 (talk) 17:10, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Exactly what I said per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:04, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest the snake has been around, and will continue to be around, for longer than the notion of the foreign business executive will. In terms of cultural impact it seems a bit closer. The executives have books and games written about them, but the snake holds a special place as one of the most, if not the most, deadliest snakes in the world. YorkshireExpat (talk) 13:41, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Just because something has been around longer does not make it more notable. In any case, the title has been in use longer than the name of the snake. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:04, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Necrothesp, I understand that you don't think there's a primary topic; I'm asking you to clarify your reasoning. I don't understand how "long term significance" makes a species of snake less notable or a corporate title more notable. I'm open to being convinced I just don't follow the argument. SilverStar54 (talk) 20:24, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * It doesn't. It makes them equally notable. Neither is more notable than the other. Both are of great long-term significance. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:03, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I just disagree then. I don't think a regionally used corporate title that has almost completely fallen out of use is nearly as significant as the deadliest snake in the world. SilverStar54 (talk) 19:47, 3 December 2023 (UTC)