Talk:Taiwan at the 1964 Summer Olympics

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: Pages moved  Ron h jones (Talk) 01:45, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Republic of China at the 1964 Summer Olympics → Taiwan at the 1964 Summer Olympics — Taiwan competed under its more common name, "Taiwan" at these Olympics. Not only is that the more common name, it is the name most people will use when looking for the article. Readin (talk) 00:34, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Republic of China at the 1968 Summer Olympics → Taiwan at the 1968 Summer Olympics

Taiwan competed under its more common name, "Taiwan" at these Olympics. Suggest we move the article to "Taiwan at the 1964 Olympics". Not only is that the more common name, it is the name most people will use when looking for the article. Readin (talk) 14:53, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

According to Article titles, names should be:


 * Recognizable – Using names and terms most commonly used in reliable sources, and so most likely to be recognized, for the topic of the article.
 * Easy to find – Using names and terms that readers are most likely to look for in order to find the article (and to which editors will most naturally link from other articles).
 * Precise – Using names and terms that are precise, but only as precise as is necessary to identify the topic of the article unambiguously.
 * Concise – Using names and terms that are brief and to the point. (Even when disambiguation is necessary, keep that part brief.)
 * Consistent – Using names and terms that follow the same pattern as those of other similar articles.


 * Recognizable: For most English readers, "Taiwan" is far more recognizable than "Republic of China".
 * Easy to find: For that same reason, "Taiwan" is much easier to find, and less likely to lead to confusion with "People's Republic of China".
 * Precise: According to WP:PRECISION the purpose of precision is to make sure the article is distinguished from other articles. Using "Taiwan" in the name clearly does that.
 * Consistent: We have a large number of articles about "Chinese Taipei in the nnnn season Olympics".  They are so named because Taiwan competed using that name in those Olympics.  In 1964 and 1968, Tawian completed as "Taiwan" so the article name should reflect that to be consistent.

Readin (talk) 00:20, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Survey

 * Oppose unless you can provide reliable sources that indicate this. And it is not the common name in 1964, since it was China at that time, while the mainland was Red China. 70.29.210.242 (talk) 06:51, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * For which thing are you looking for a reliable source? The Games of the XVIII Oympiad Tokyo 1965:  The Official Report of the Organizing Committee shows that the name "Taiwan" was used for the games.
 * To my knowledge, in the 1960s Taiwan was referred to as "Formosa" or "Taiwan", or "China" when someone was trying to make a political point. But when I say "Taiwan" is the common name I'm talking about the name people will look for this article under.  "Taiwan" is clearly the common and most recognizable name today. Readin (talk) 00:37, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I accept your reliable source for the 1964 Olympics, and withdraw my objection to that one. What about the other one? 70.29.210.242 (talk) 10:00, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You mean the 1968 Olympics? "The Games" Produced by the Organizing Committee of the Games of the XIX Olympiad Readin (talk) 14:42, 27 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment the article Taiwan at the Olympics will need to be modified in response to this. 70.29.210.242 (talk) 10:04, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Support source indicates that Taiwan was the name used. Also, if Chinese Taipei at the Olympics is correct, the 1932-1948 articles should be just China at the 1932 Summer Olympics etc. Roke (talk) 23:05, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Support as the originator of the move request. Readin (talk) 14:34, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.