Talk:TaleSpin

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Kushal 16:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Banned episode?

 * There were 65 episodes total, although one episode is now banned for its terrorist theme.

"Banned" by whom? Certainly not the United States government, that would be a severe violation of the First Amendment. Disney? The article needs more about this. - furrykef (Talk at me) 15:19, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

- I don't think "banned" is the right word. It was just never aired again is all. Kooshmeister

Two episodes were banned, one temporarily and the other permanently. The episode "Last Horizons" was banned temporarily for allegedly stereotyping pandas. The episode "Flying Dupes" was permanently banned for having a terrorist theme, the plot synopsis being that Baloo is tricked into delivering a package to the High Marshall of Thembria without the knowledge that the box really carries a bomb planted by munitions manufacturers who want Thembria to go to war with Cape Suzette. Fortunately for me though I happened to record this episode when it aired for the first and only time on Disney and can see it as many times as I want, which is a shame for others since it is one of the best and funniest episodes despite the supposed terrorist undertones. Forgot to include my signature. HuronKing
 * Banned? I know I've seen the episode (the phrase "shut down all air vectors" came to mind on 2001-09-11), and as I didn't watch the show often during its initial run I'd think it very unlikely that it was never aired again. 70.19.83.235 23:43, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Heh, those are among the few episodes I remember, the other one being about Baloo trying to convince his teacher that kumquats grow on some icy mountain in order to pass a test.

KVVU in Las Vegas aired these episodes twice, actually, as TaleSpin wasn't part of the Disney Afternoon in Las Vegas. In fact, TaleSpin was shown at 830 AM. Japanimation station (talk) 16:56, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Tales of the Gold Monkey
Isn't Tale Spin very similar to Tales of the Gold Monkey?
 * The protagonist in both the series were bush pilots operating a flying boat.
 * The name of the plane in TS was Seaduck, in TotGM it was Cutter's Goose.
 * Their is a bar in both the TV series and in the animation which is meeting place for all the pilots of the area. The bar in both was run by a guy named Louie who was a good friend of the protagonist.
 * Both were set somewhere in the first half of the century in probably the Pacific.
 * In both of them there was a big shot  (Share Khan in TS, some Japanese woman in TotGM) who was influential and powerful person whose business crossed path with the protagonists on several occasions. In both the series the big shot was both benevolent and malevolent depending on there interests.


 * Came here and thought as well it's odd that the article has no mention of this similarity, especially given the timeline, TOTGM being from 1982 and well known at the time of TaleSpin's development, yet the article references weaker linked animés...Zuckerberg (talk) 17:46, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Molly's Middle Name
On some Internet websites site 1 site 2 site 3 they refer to Rebecca's daughter Molly as Molly Elizabeth Cunningham, What I would like to find out is when was it ever established either in the TV series or through other official Disney outlets that Molly's middle name is Elizabeth? None of the other characters seem to have a middle name so why does Molly. Misterrick 20:25, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

It was called in 'Mommy For A day' 217.168.67.33 19:18, 16 May 2006

Other characters

 * More characters to be added soon when conditions warrant.

List of characters
I am disturbed about the list of characters AND the episodes they appear in. They should only include this junk for the minor characters. I am also disturbed about the Hindi translations. I don't think they should be included, either. (Plainnym 01:10, 19 May 2006 (UTC))
 * Disturbed because they're inaccurate? 68.225.240.87 20:50, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Are they? --Plainnym 13:45, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the listing of the one-shot characters. If they only appeared in one episode they should not be included. Focus should just be on the main characters, the main Air Pirates and the main Thembrian characters.Bhall87 (talk) 00:33, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Sea Duck
You know, the coolest thing for me about this show were the planes. So what I'd really like to see on this page, is a mention of what real-life plane the Sea Duck is based on. I can't think of much myself, someone who might ?

--Prodigital 23:15, 10 June 2006 (UTC)


 * The Sea Duck is quite obviously a Grumman Goose. Dunno about the other planes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.58.160.130 (talk) 04:04, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


 * The sea duck isn't based on a particular aircraft, and I doubt you'd find a proper source for it anyway. I'd say the wings and booms are taken from a C-119 and the fuselage is inspired by a PBY Catalina. --GSchjetne (talk) 10:37, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Waiders
I was recently sent a message regarding my edits yesterday of the title of "Waiders Of The Wost Tweasure" in the bottom of the "TaleSpin" article.

According to lists on TV.com:

http://www.tv.com/talespin/show/3235/episode_listings.html?tag=episodes;more

Paszaz Entertainment Network:

http://www.pazsaz.com/talespin.html

and imdb.com:

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0098924/episodes

The episode's title is clearly marked with the word, "Tweasure", not "Treasure".

My edits were described in a message by "WinHunter" as being "nonsense" and my actions "vandalism", both of which I strongly contest, and my edits were reverted. I hope this issue can and will be resolved.

Controversy section
I split the controversy section so it isn't all mixed up. Is that ok? (Plainnym 16:30, 21 June 2006 (UTC))
 * Apparently not, because someone deleted it completely.
 * It's confusing because there's a link to the missing section. Can that be restored? (23, June 2008)
 * Done. Better late than never (12, June 2012) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.21.40.212 (talk) 15:34, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

First 23 episodes on volume 1 of DVD, not 27
The article currently states that the first 27 episodes will be released in volume 1. The DVD box cover art found at IGN http://dvd.ign.com/articles/717/717945p1.html says "Includes pilot & first 23 episodes". I am changing the article to reflect this. Geofflee 03:16, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Pilot episode is a 2h movie and was later split into 4 seperate episodes. So (pilot = 4episodes) +23 episodes is 27.--172.178.113.77 09:17, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Timeframe?
Is the Timeframe of the show really the 1930s? Some details on the show seem too modern for this time to me.  Becky is a very self-confident bussiness-woman, which seems very unusually for this timeframe to me. Also the firm of Shere Khan seems to be very modern. I would like to read opinions to this topic. Thank you.--84.142.129.8 08:12, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Television shows (and especially cartoons) set in the past tend to be anachronistic, taking artistic liberties with the time period for the sake of the storyline, or to make each episode more entertaining. TaleSpin is a perfect example of this... it's set in the 1930's, but takes inspiration from a number of outside sources, including Jules Verne novels, the Cold War of the 1980's, and the Disney film The Rocketeer (which in itself borrowed heavily from old science-fiction serials from the 1940's). In short, TaleSpin is science fiction fantasy. It's not meant to be a completely accurate portrayal of life after World War II. If it were, there would be a lot fewer airplanes flying around and even fewer animals flying them. --M.Neko 19:57, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Another giveaway that the timeframe or otherwise the technology is incorrect is that the Sea Duck cannot be based on a Fairchild C-82 Packet or a Grumman HU-16 Albatross as said in the article because those planes were built in the 1940s one decade later from the presumed timeframe. Deltasim (talk) 11:15, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Who didn't appear in what
I've moved the lists of X character did not appear in the following from the trivia section to here. As it is, it's crufty and unnecessary. The only notable fact (which I did not delete) is the one about Baloo being in all 65 episodes. Wl219 11:43, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Kit Cloudkicker is not included in the following episodes:
 * "Balooest of the Blue Bloods"
 * "Bygones"
 * "Flight of the Snow Duck"
 * "For Whom the Bell Klangs" parts 1 & 2
 * "Her Chance To Dream"
 * "In Search of Ancient Blunders"
 * "Jumping the Guns"
 * "Mach One For the Gipper"
 * "Paradise Lost"
 * "The Ransom of Red Chimp"
 * "The Road To Macadamia"
 * "A Spy In the Ointment"
 * "Stuck On You"
 * "A Touch Of Glass"

Kit did appear in "Waiders Of The Wost Tweasure" (sic), albeit briefly, mainly in the beginning and ending. He was not, however, integral to the action, the result of a sub-plot in which he was trapped inside a suit of armor.


 * Neither Rebecca Cunningham nor her daughter Molly are included in the following episodes:
 * "Plunder & Lightning" part 1
 * "Citizen Khan"
 * "Destiny Rides Again"
 * "For Whom the Bell Klangs" parts 1 & 2
 * "The Road To Macadamia"
 * "In Search of Ancient Blunders"
 * "Jumping the Guns"
 * "Louie's Last Stand"
 * "Mach One For The Gipper"
 * "Paradise Lost"
 * "The Ransom of Red Chimp"
 * "Waiders of the Wost Tweasure" (sic)


 * The following episodes do not involve the Air Pirates:
 * "Double Or Nothing"
 * "The Golden Sprocket of Friendship"
 * "Time Waits For No Bear"
 * "The Old Man and the Sea Duck"
 * "Paradise Lost"
 * "Baloo Thunder"
 * "Bullethead Baloo"
 * "Whistlestop Jackson, Legend"
 * "The Road To Macadamia"
 * "Flight of the Snow Duck"
 * "For Whom the Bell Klangs" parts 1 & 2
 * "Louie's Last Stand"
 * "Stormy Weather"
 * "All's Whale That Ends Whale" (sic)
 * "Waiders Of The Wost Tweasure" (sic)
 * "Balooest Of The Blue Bloods"
 * "Her Chance To Dream"
 * "Mommy For A Day"
 * Well "The Road to Macadamia" and "For Whom the Bell Klangs" are both likely chronologically earlier than "Plunder and Lightning", so those episodes not including Kit Rebecca and Molly actually make sense. For the episodes Molly was absent from, this was likely because her voice actress was a seven-year-old girl who had school to attend to, same for the episodes Kit was absent from, only in his case, it was Kit himself having school to attend to (I think) rather than his voice-actor. As for Rebecca, she has to stay at the headquarters, why else would she miss an event like "Mach one for the Gipper" (though she does get mentioned in some episodes she's absent from, like in "Waiders of the Wost Tweasure")? As for the pirates: technically main-villains aren't as important as main heroes: a lot of main-villains from other shows get left out of certain episodes.184.186.4.209 (talk) 05:55, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

What Channels?
This article doesn't seem to very well specify exactly what channels TailSpin aired on. I remember being about five years old watching it during the afternoons on either ABC or CBS. This was around 1991 and I didn't have the Disney Channel, so I'm sure that wasn't it. The Disney Afternoon article doesn't explain what channels the block aired on either, so that doesn't help. Any improvements on this would be appreciated. Cale 03:16, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


 * If you check the article you'll see that it was syndicated.--Beaker342 04:04, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

VHS releases
I found a list of TaleSpin VHS titles. There are eight in total. Take a look! If you have any question, ask above the titles.

True Baloo (September 21, 1990)

That's Show Biz! (September 20, 1991)

Jackpots and Crackpots (September 20, 1991)

Fearless Flyers (September 20, 1991)

Treasure Traps (February 28, 1992)

Imagine That! (February 28, 1992)

Wise Up! (February 28, 1992)

Search of the Lost City (February 28, 1992)

Signed by:

Skymac207 19:04, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Norman Bel Geddes Airliner #4
It might be an interesting bit of trivia to note that in the episode of Tale Spin involving a plot to create a Bermuda Triangle-like magnetic anomaly, parts of crashed planes are being collected to build what appears to be Norman Bel Geddes' Airliner #4 (the Bel Geddes craft seen here: http://home.att.net/~dannysoar/BelGeddes.htm).
 * Link is down, archive.org memento Zuckerberg (talk) 17:49, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

"Banned Episodes" section
so nobody gets too uptight, here's the text that needs SOURCES and VERIFICATION. "Fan" pages who have been perpetuating that these episodes have been "BANNED" are NOT viable sources, so DON'T put it back and "cite" fan pages!

Banned episodes
Two episodes of Talespin drew varied amounts of controversy, enough for one episode to be temporarily banned and the other to be permanently banned.

The first of these, the episode "Last Horizons", was temporarily banned and taken off the air. Investigation of the event has since revealed that the reason for its temporary removal was the alleged stereotyping of Asians. The villain in the episode is an anthropomorphic panda Emperor named Wan Lo (voiced by actor Robert Ito) living in a mock-pre-WWII Asian nation called "Panda-La", who takes Baloo into his country to exploit his naiveté and attacks Cape Suzette. There is a reference how their lust for conquest is not shared by all of their species with "Good Pandas especially dislike us."

The fictitious nation may have been a take on Japan, which attacked the US naval base at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii on December 7, 1941. That incident ushered America's entry into the Second World War.

The second episode, coincidentally the last in the series, titled "Flying Dupes" was aired for the first time on August 8 1992 and was immediately pulled from the lineup afterward, not to be seen again for more than ten years. It made a brief re-appearance on Toon Disney several years ago, possibly by mistake, and has never been re-aired since. Considered by Disney to be a banned episode, the apparent reason for this episode's permanent removal from the airwaves is the terrorist theme associated with it. Despite this ban, the episode was aired repeatedly by independent stations, including Seattle-based KSTW-TV and Family Channel in Canada. They also get aired on German TV (dubbed) practically anytime the series gets broadcast.

The general synopsis of the episode starts with Baloo being asked to deliver a goodwill present (a cuckoo clock he is told) to the High Marshall of Thembria from Cape Suzette. Baloo is unaware until the end of the episode that the package really contains a time bomb planted by munitions manufacturers who wish to provoke a war between Thembria and Cape Suzette in order to boost weapons sales.

Characters and Episodes moved to their own pages
The Characters and Episodes sections were taking over the article. I gave each their own page. Mintchocolatebear (talk) 10:28, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Bad information
Not all episodes of the 65 episode run were released in the first year. Disney trickle released the episodes over a period of 2 and 1/2 years. Keeping it in reruns for the last year and a half it was on the Disney Afternoon syndication block. The last "season" had something like 10 episodes which were released weekly. I've been finding a lot of misinformation on how cartoons are released on wikipedia, I think it has to do with people not understanding the difference between production runs/collection copyright dates and actual first airdates. All you need to do to verify this is to order some old T.V. guides, or look up the t.v. schedule in some old newspapers. I came here because I keep seeing people citing wikipedia on "failed t.v. show/cartoon" videos on YouTube, and it seems that wikipedia is the direct cause. Whomever edits these sites keeps confusing airdates with production dates and copyright dates. 2600:6C67:237F:C6D9:6D90:4E7:BE8E:73B0 (talk) 11:58, 22 October 2023 (UTC)