Talk:Talia Winters

Talia's fate
Wasn't Talia's fate not really intended originally? I presume with the telekenesis plotline she wasn't supposed to be suddenly outed. It was the original 1st officer of B5 that was to have the multiple personalities. {{subst:unsigned2|19:19, 9 February 2006|82.18.158.193}

Sources needed
There's a lot of material currently in this article that goes beyond what's on the screen, but has no cited source. I've tagged some of the most egregious examples about the encounter between Kosh and Talia (the phrase "backup copy" is never made clear in the show, and all future material is sheer speculation without reliable sources). I've also requested a source for the CompuServe quote. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 05:26, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Too many assumptions/speculations
That "one of the producers once joked about having her brain appear in a jar on Bester's desk" does not constitute sufficient evidence to infer that "that the staff considered her deceased".

i.e. one person + death jest =/= whole staff + actually deceased

I've just been rewatching B5 on DVD in the last few weeks. Talia and Susan Ivanova do not have a sexual relationship. There is what you might call "sexual tension" between them, particularly in Talia's final episode, but considering we didn't even see them so much as kiss, to infer they had a sexual relationship is an unfounded speculation. 83.67.41.128 (talk) 20:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'm sure when they slept in the same bed together all they did was sleep. --Dekker451 (talk) 08:24, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

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 * I have filled out a non-free use rationale template for this image, added it to the image description page, and removed the dispute tag per instructions. Thank you for the notice. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 10:39, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

In-universe style
According to JMS, the decisions to write Talia Winters out of the story was driven by conflicts with actress Andrea Thompson (as archived in the Lurker's Guide. The current version of the article is exclusively in-universe and should reflect some of the external issues. Wellspring (talk) 01:08, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Starlog Magazine Issue 225 included a Farewell. Thompson describes her departure from her own perspective. She discuss the character, explains that Talia is bisexual, among other things. She also explains her belief that things were strained with JMS because he had wanted Patricia Tallman in the show rather than her. There should be enough to put together a short paragraph about the behind
 * The article for Lyta Alexander already includes some relevant information "After Thompson left the series due to disagreements regarding the amount of screen time given to her character, Lyta returned [... and] Her character simply resumed the dramatic arc once intended for Thompson's."
 * Lurkers guide, Divided Loyalties includes comments from JMS.
 * That should be enough for at least a short paragraph about the Production out of universe happenings. -- 109.79.92.164 (talk) 04:47, 12 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Cinefantastique issue from June 2000 discusses the episode Divided Loyalties starting on near the end of the page, resuming several pages later  and it mentions that JMS only hinted at the Ivanova Talia relationship, and writer Larry DiTillio says he thinks it was a mistake not to address the story more directly. (Again JMS discussion "RE: alternate lifestyles" in the lurkers guide.)
 * I don't plan on making any changes to the article myself, so I provide these sources to make it easier for anyone else who might want to try. -- 109.79.92.164 (talk) 05:09, 12 June 2019 (UTC)