Talk:Tamagotchi/Archive 1

Info
Needs info on knockoffs, such as Nintendo Pikachu keychain.

NOt really, since this is a section about Tamagotchi and not Tamagotchi knock-offs SuperDT 20:32, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

"If it's not an egg, it's not the original tamagotchi" [maestro] 11:26, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * Disagree: The original Digimon Battle Pets by Bandai had "Digi-eggs" or "Digi-tamas," but they're by no means Tamagotchis. The Digimon Battle Pets were more of a "boys' alternative" to the seemingly girly Tamagotchis back in the day. --Gear-Richie 06:53, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Nice point Gear-Richie, just too bad you're two years too late =p SuperDT 03:30, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I think the English translation of Tamagotchi is wrong. First of all, the word for watch in Japanese is tokee. That or the textbook I've been reading from is wrong. (Genki: An Introductory Course to Elementary Japanese) So watch can't be part of the translation. Isn't it supposed to be "loveable"? Kaishin


 * A lot of Japanese words adopt from the English. It's likely that the original Japanese is "tokee", but "wotchi" would be understandable also. - Vague | Rant 01:39, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

The romanization of that word is "toki" pronounced "toh kee". That word means Time, Hour, or Occasion. "tokei" is Watch or Clock. To romanize the word, you can't use "wo" because that's the Direct Object article and is correctly romanized as "w(o)". There is no "wo" character. To romanize the sounds of "Watch" you have to use these katakana characters: U O tsu CHI, romanized as UOTCHI. In this case, the O sound by itself is a short O. I used JWPce for WindowsCE to verify the text. With Go or Ko, it's a long O. You know? 209.240.207.71 04:53, 11 September 2006 (UTC)MrTamago

May I suggest a section in this article on the ethics/philosophy/sociology perspectives on this toy?. Any specific critiques would be interesting (I think I remember reading about some schools in the UK banning them!). Alternatively, a link to a relevant article on this subject would be useful. A brief comparison (and link to) AIBO would also be good (related product). --ChrisJMoor 02:36, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Clean Up Time!!!
Allow me to express my concerns for this article:


 * Take out all references to "You," such as "you would be able to take care of them. Replace this with words like "user," "owner," "care taker," "idiotic slave," etc.  This is a formal encyclopedia article, not a 4th grade essay =) (ALMOST DONE)


 * Take out all past tense verbs, like was, were, had, etc. and replace them with present tense like is, am, have, etc.  Unless it was something that happened in the past, like dates and past announcements and such.  Remember, Just because it was built in the past, doesn't mean it still cant dunction like it used it. (DONE)


 * Take out all the helpful Tamagotchi tips, like the codes for the Connections and such. Like stated above in a few places, this is an encyclopedia article, not a help guide for new Tamagotchi users too lazy to look for tips themselves. (WILL NEVER BE DONE)


 * This is optional, but I think we should pick the notable Tamagotchi releases, which are those that had some kind of decent impact on the virtual pet industry, and keep those; the rest we can add in a seperate article titled "List of Tamagotchi releases." This will make the article much smaller, more straight to the point, and make it look a little better. (WORKING ON IT)

If there's anything else that needs to be done, please put it down... I will do my best to try and do some major editing when I get home from the Anime Expo =D

SuperDT 05:50, 4 July 2006 (UTC) SuperDT 03:30, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Connection V3 glitches?
Someone put on the page that V3's are notorious for the numerous amount of glitches... can someone please verify this and list some examples? SuperDT 19:39, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

There are no known glitches that I can see. I have a Version 3, and all it did was when the new generation came along and my adult character was gone, some of the souvenirs deactivated. But I had written down the passwords I got off Tamatown, so I put them back in, and they re-activated all over again. I don't know why they deactivate, maybe it's a way for Bandai to get kids on the website again thinking they need to get "new" passwords? One friend said she had stuff disappear between her 10 Version 3s, but I told her if you give food presents, they will eat them right as soon as they get them. I've passed items between my 2 Version 2s without problems. Haven't had a chance to try that with 2 Version 3s to see what happens to verify this. 209.240.207.71 04:38, 11 September 2006 (UTC)MrTamago

Pronunciation
is it just me, or is "ta-ma-GAH-chee" the "short 'O'" variant, whereas "a-a-choo" should be LONG WTF!

In some places(namely the U.S.), we pronounced it GAH; in almost every other place, it's pronounced GOH or GO.

Because of the way the Japanese is romanized, the kana would be ta ma go (which is a voiced KO character) and then what I would call a lowercase tsu - this means to double the next consonant sound and then chi. Hence, tamagotchi. It could have been written as tamago-chi, as is done in a recent CMX translated manga publication - Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne, in which the author expresses thanks to "Arina-chi" and that's how the editors in the English edition write it. It could have easily been "Arinatchi". I've asked one penpal in Japan about the "-chi" suffix, and she says most people use it because it's cute. It's been around before the Bandai toy was invented, so that's why it got the "tchi" suffix. It's Bandai America's goof in their commercials in which they say it incorrectly - perhaps a staff of gaijin ignorant of how the word is correctly pronounced. Everyone I come in contact with in the general public get my lesson as to why the way they say it is wrong, and it is a long O. It's not "We here in the U.S." saying it one way - it's people uninformed about Japanese saying it wrong. So please, whomever is changing the fix I keep putting in, stop removing it. I'm right about this and I will check on it from time to time to keep the right information up there. Just because one person makes an error doesn't mean it should be perpetuated. Set the record straight for once! Tah Mah Goh Chi!!! 209.240.207.71 04:26, 11 September 2006 (UTC)Sep11/06 MrTamago

Tamagotch?
I was just curious: why are most of the names missing the "i", thus spelt tamagotch?

I'm not exactly sure, I imagine is has to do with the fact sometimes syllables are "whispered" in Japanese... for example, "desu" is not "de-soo" it's more like "dess". I guess they drop the "i" all the time because of that, and also to make it match up with "watch" more closely. Watch/gotch? That's my thoughts on it. This is why it's important that whoever keeps adding "i" to the end of tamagotch on this article needs to STOP doing it, because that is not how it is spelled on the Japanese packaging. 70.160.248.98 19:24, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Ok I saw the Japanese packaging, but shouldn't we put the Japanese name in parenthesis, e.x. "Tamagotchi(Tamagotch)" or "Ocean Tamagotchi(Umi no Tamagotch)?"

Tamaguchi
the correct spelling is "tamaguchi." please correct.


 * No the correct spelling is "tamagotchi". It can be seen on Bandai's homepage (in Japanese) http://www.bandai.co.jp/

It was always called a TAMAGOTCHI so I have no idea where you got the idea that it was TAMAGUCHI because it is not I would also now because I have them hanging around my neck right now and they say TAMAGOTCHI on the front

Tamaguchi was the media's way of pronouncing/spelling Tamagotchi back when they were being criticized for making our kids stupider... much like how parents would call Pokemon "Pokeman" =)

What is it?
Thx, but to be a proper encyclopedia article it must say what a tamagotchi IS, or what it does, etc. This newcomer has no idea, even after scanning the details below. "alyosha" (talk) 08:18, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Eg, i just found this at digital pet : "alyosha" (talk) 08:20, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Tamagotchi, a simple computer designed to simulate a pet. The computer is usually housed in a small, egg-shaped plastic container, and the image of the "pet" is displayed on a simple black and white screen. Three or four buttons allow the user to perform different tasks, such as feed the pet, play games with it, or wash it. When the pet is unsatisfied, it beeps.

Creator Of Tamagotchi
I believe you have the name wrong on the original creator of Tamagotchi. I spent some time with a Mr. Iwashima of Nagoya, Japan who seems to be the original creator of the Tamagotchi. He owned a small gadget company and made the first and second tamagotchi himself, contractiong out the actual production to chinese factories. He sold the toys to bandai for the first and second editions, then I believe he sold the Tamagotchi name to Bandai, when he retired. He even had a golden tamagotchi in his house presented to him by Bandai, and also seveal boxes of origanl production run Tamagotchis. I am therefore interested in who this Aki Maita is.12.175.216.67 01:50, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm interested in who Iwashima is more than Maita. I did a google search for "Iwashima creator of Tamagotchi" and "Iwashima maker of Tamagotchi" and came up with ZERO results for both, but if I replaced Iwashima with Maita, I get loads of articles on him(Maita). For the "maker" of Tamagotchi, Iwashima sure isn't that popular to Google... SuperDT 20:40, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Can you verify this? There sure is a lot of articles crediting 'Aki Maita' as the creator. --goon 11:04, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Bandia also created digimon —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.12.187.189 (talk • contribs).

Cleanup
I have tagged this article for cleanup. The grammar is horrible and most of the text is so geared toward fans that it is completely unintelligible. For instance: "Digimon had five different generations, each one with different evolutions but with the same functions.It then had a series of v-pets called Pendulums which introduced Jogress and another stage: Ultimate. It also came out with the pendulum progress, the pendulum x, and the Digimon Accel. It is soon to have a Digimon Mini."

Huh?? What does any of that mean?
 * What is an evolution?
 * How are they different but with all the same functions?
 * What are v-pets? This is the only mention of them in the entire article.
 * What the hell is Jogress?
 * What is Ultimate stage?
 * What is a pendulum progress or a pendulum x? And if those names are some kind of title or brand, why aren't they capitalized?
 * What is this "it" referring to? ("It then had a series...it also came out with...it is soon to have...) If the "it" is referring to Digimon, then I have to point out that Digimon didn't "come out with" anything; Digimon is the product, not the creator.

These same problems are in every section of the article; it is in need of major cleanup by someone who knows more about the topic than I do. I'm willing to help fix some of the grammar issues, but I don't even know where to begin with the rest. Kafziel 12:54, 24 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I'll do my best to clean up. SuperDT
 * Ok I cleaned up the Digimon section... any other sections?
 * Practically all of the other sections need work. Just picking another one at random, here's "Tamagotchi plus":


 * The newest version, released in Japan on March 20, 2004, U.S. on August 15, 2004 and Australia on June 14, 2005 as Tamagotchi Connection.
 * Includes characters from the original Tamagotchi as well as new characters never before seen.
 * Implements an infrared port to connect to other Tamagotchi to "make friends" and also breed and create a new generation of Tamagotchi, similar to the direct-connection feature on osutchi and mesutchi.
 * Can also connect to deka (huge) Tamagotchi in Japanese retail stores and restaurants for an exclusive "friend".


 * -If this is the "newest" version, why are there several other versions after it on the list?
 * -According to the next 2 sections on the list, "Tamagotchi plus" was never released in the US; the one in the US is called "Tamagotchi Connection". Which means the US release date should be under that section, not this one.
 * -If the characters are "new", then obviously they've never been seen before. That line reads like advertising.
 * -The sections on osutchi and mesutchi don't say anything about an infrared connection, so how is this similar?


 * I also have another question; looking at your changes to the Digimon section... if Digimon isn't Tamagotchi, what is it doing here in the first place? It should be a link under the "see also" section, not its own section on this page. Tamagotchi is a brand name; anything on this list that's a different brand needs to be taken off or at least moved to a separate section for knock-offs.

Yes you're right... if it's not deleted, I'll do that, and see what else I can clean up. SuperDT


 * Almost every section needs cleanup (or deletion, in the case of Digimon and I don't know how many others). The whole article needs to be read by someone totally ignorant of these things (like me, except I don't really care enough about this topic to keep posting all the problems here one by one) and fixed by someone who knows what they're talking about. Kafziel 13:35, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Ok I did a little more cleaning up, and someone deleted most of the info about the V3's... but other than that, how's it look? SuperDT 06:24, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

As an entire outsider to Tamagotchi, I also did a bit more cleaning up. Due to most of this article relying on the slightly confusing description of all the various versions of Tamagotchi, I suggest a new article containing this exclusive information, or creating yet more subsections of the Tamagotchi products. (American Editions, Japanese Editions, Other Editions, Etc.) CryptoStorm 01:35, 21 March 2006 (UTC) tamagotchi Tamagotchis are popular

how in the world did my tama manage to live to 4 years old and still be a teen. that's just crazy. every tama i have is always 3 when it's adult. now, blah! -soundslikefun (write back, i will be checking on the page) The Digimon stuff has been taken off the page by a fellow member of the WikiProject Digimon Systems Update. It's been moved to my article, Digimon Battle Pets where I'll try to make some sense of it. --Gear-Richie 06:50, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I think Tamagotchi's are sweet
Have you seen any v3 tamagotchi's they are much better then v1 and v2 you can use your Computer to get passwords.You can also get games and also bring things off the computer on to thev3 as people call it --TamagotchiGirl13 19:56, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Time of release
When was the original Tamagotchi released? --Abdull 18:30, 20 May 2006 (UTC) It was released November 1996.
 * It was released on November 23rd 1996 -- Danny  Phantom   [ Phantom... ]  19:38, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Links
If I may ask, why is the official US Tamagotchi website not allowed to be put on the External Links? And what about TamaTalk?

HELP :(
Does anyone know why it won't let me use my items that I bought/recieved? I don't get it. :( And I couldn't find it in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bamfan93 (talk • contribs)


 * Please only post about things relevant to this article not questions on that topic. Also sign your name after each post by adding ~ after the post. Thanks! Mike Beckham 03:29, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Please note that you don't have to go out of your way to say "DIS IS NO HELP PAIJE!!!1!!132!@#" with a big orange banner at the top of a page just because of one question from a newcomer. Bamfan93 03:47, 14 June 2006 (UTC)BamFan93

ZomgRUhappeeeenowedatIsignedit??? Bamfan93 03:47, 14 June 2006 (UTC)BamFan93


 * Please see WP:NPA. I wrote those things to help you as a newcomber and the message is for other people who may post questions. Thanks! Mike Beckham 04:06, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I didn't do a personal attack, I just said, to the general wiki-public, that they don't have to do the things that you did. I never even mentioned you AT ALL. Thanks! BamFan93 19:50, 1 July 2006 (UTC)


 * You can't use those items because you have to be a certain age to use those. -- Danny  Phantom   [ Phantom... ]  23:32, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Reasons for deleting Digimon section
1) If you're going to have a Digimon section, you might as well make a whole other section of Tamagotchi spin-offs and such, and the article will become not only too big for its own good, but so off-topic that we'll have to start all over again.

2) There was a Digimon section in the past, but it looked like butt and did not fit anywhere, so it got deleted too. If you have any comments, questions, concerns, etc. feel free to ask =) SuperDT 05:42, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Notable Tamagotchi releases?
Please tell me what Tamagotchis you believe are notable releases, and why. The reason why is so that we can just put the important Tamagotchi releases on this article, and make a list of all Tamagotchi releases on a seperate article. If there are no replies by Saturday, July 15, 2006, I will choose the most important Tamagotchi releases. Thanks! SuperDT 03:51, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Tamagotchi Connection Version 4
I added the section on V4 quickly a little while ago when I read about the information in an article which was linked from some cheesy fansite. However, now I've found that the link to the article is gone and the article has been completely reworded to leave out references to "Version 4" and just says "next Tamagotchi in January 2007". Not exactly sure what to do about it, but that's where it came from. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.160.248.98 (talk • contribs).

Just a couple reminders on this: Please do not add any info that is pure speculation or maybe's (for example, that sentence I took out that said "It should be based on Uratama"). Remember that Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. SuperDT 03:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Hiragana v. Katakana
I recently changed the Tamagotchi hiragana to katakana, and shortly after it was again in hiragana. I was wondering why this was since tamagotchi isn't a native japanese word. Therefore, shouldn't it be written タマゴッチ as opposed to　たまごっち? Holylampposts 06:00, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Because Tamagotchi is a native Japanese word... ok, maybe a play on Japanese words, but still a Japanese word nonetheless. Also, on the Japanese packaging, the name is in English and Hiragana. SuperDT 03:13, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Kakeibo
Shouldn't the Tamagotchi Kakeibo be listed somewhere?

It's the first tam to have a touch screen and acts like a home Deka for an Entama.


 * I should mention that despite the changes somebody made, this person is right, the kakeibo is the first Tamagotchi to have an actual touch screen. Although in AMERICA and perhaps other non-Japanese places the Tamagotchi Angel and Tamagotchi Ocean were marketed as having a "touch screen" they DO NOT in fact have one!  It is merely a motion sensor that works if you shake it, tap it, whatever.  The kakeibo is the first and only to have an actual digitizer over the LCD that allows you to interact in various ways depending on where you touch the screen.  ALSO, the kakeibo is not the "home dekatama" for the entama/uratama/hanerutchi2 generation.  There is a new home dekatama coming out in October.  It is yellow-orange and looks just like the first dekatama, except with new functions and that weird ball-antenna thing like the entama has.

Alright thank you for clearing that up. I'll make the said edits to Tama Angel and Ocean. SuperDT 21:20, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

GigaPets
Why does the word GigaPets redirect here? Yes, they were virtual pets, but they weren't Tamagotchis, for they were released by Tiger Electronics.

Alright, thanks for pointing that out. I have changed it now so that it won't redirect back here. SuperDT 23:08, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Question...
I know you're only supposed to post things to improve this article but what does your Tamagotch do to celebrate your birthday? -- Danny  Phantom   [ Phantom... ] 19:37, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

My Connections did a silly little birthday ritual. try setting your birthday to the next day and watch it. SuperDT 16:41, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't want to reset my tamagotchi. I'm on 3rd generation and tommorrow 4th. I guess i'll have to wait 6 more months to see it. Also if you get a royal costume and wear it it gives you a password and when you get it it says: PASSWORD FOR ?? Do you know where to enter in the password?? -- Danny  Phantom   [ Phantom... ]  01:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Lol no you don't reset the Tama, you press the buttons to change the time, but instead keep the time the same, but change the date.

I believe you enter the password on Tama town. SuperDT 02:43, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I tried typing the password in every password place on tamatown but it doesn't work. -- Danny  Phantom   [ Phantom... ]  14:25, 2 August 2006 (UTC)