Talk:Tamerlan Tsarnaev

Redirect removed
I have severed this page from the redirect to the Boston Marathon bombing because the subject matter of this article cannot neatly fit into or be adequately presented within the redirect page. A separate platform is needed for the information about this subject to grow independently. ContinentalAve (talk) 14:39, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * There is a on-going content dispute going on at the main article about whether the names should be posted on Wikipedia. We should not by-pass that discussion by creating an article about these individuals before that dispute is decided.--ExclusiveAgent (talk) 14:43, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Per Wikipedia policy, a separate article is generally not written for perpetrators of single crimes.--ExclusiveAgent (talk) 14:48, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * It is reprehensible that you would sever this page from the Boston Marathon redirect. The reality is that this person was the main perpetrator of the attack. When you say it cannot be neatly fit into or be adequately presented, it does not preclude the accurate linking that this person and his brother caused the bombing. 71.172.156.24 (talk) 04:46, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
 * And I am curious why this Wikipedia contributor completely disappeared after they passed this verdict?? 71.172.156.24 (talk) 04:48, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Redirect
I think this should redirect more specifically to Boston Marathon bombings, instead of just Boston Marathon bombings. - Camyoung54   talk  22:19, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, so Yes check.svg Done -- Red rose64 (talk) 22:49, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Categories
Could categories be added, just like on his brother's page? Tinton5 (talk) 01:15, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
 * There are quite a lot of these: Dzhokar Tsarnaev; Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev; Dzhokhar Tsarnaev; Dzhokhar Tsarnayev; Dzokhar Tsarnaev; Jahar Tsarnaev; Johar Tsarnaev; Tamelan Tsarnaev; Tamerlan Tsarnaev; Tamerlan Tsarnayev. We should really only put cats on two - one for each person. -- Red rose64 (talk) 08:02, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Zahara
The article says Zahara was born in 2011. The source for that contains no such information. This is important because Russell's mother said in trial testimony (punishment phase) that after the child was born, Katherine spent nearly 10 months at the family house, with Tsarnaev visiting mainly on the weekends. If this is true, it means that Russell was not present when the FBI interviewed Tsarnaev, and was likely not present in September 2011, when the Waltham murders happened; which of course reduces her potential culpability. If anybody has a direct source giving the date of birth of the child Zahara, they should add it, otherwise, the claim of 2011, however credible it may seem, should be removed as it is unsourced. Theonemacduff (talk) 20:02, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Discrepancy re US arrival
This article says in the Introduction that Tamerlan "and his family immigrated to the United States as asylees in 2002." However, the article on his younger brother, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, says that most of the family arrived in the US in April of 2002 and that the elder brother "Tamerlan was left in the care of his uncle Ruslan in Kyrgyzstan, and arrived in the U.S. around two years later."

The source in the footnote for the introduction to this (Tamerlan) article is: Dzhokhar and Tamerlan: A Profile of the Tsarnaev Brothers". CBS News. April 23, 2013, All it says is:


 * The brothers Tsarnaev had been in the United States for nearly a decade. Ethnic Chechens, they came with their family to Cambridge -- fleeing violence in their homeland for a better life in America.

Moreover, the section in this article on Tamerlan's "Activities prior to the bombings:2002-2007" says that "After arriving in the U.S. in 2002, he attended Cambridge Rindge and Latin School, a public high school." However, the source cited only says:


 * "Tsarnaev and his brother, 19-year-old Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, known as Suspect 2, moved to Massachusetts approximately a decade ago, according to an uncle." Saltzman, Amy (July 28, 2009).

Source: "Slain bombing suspect had arrest record in Cambridge". Wicked Local. Retrieved April 20, 2013.

The cited sources for both of these statements are rather vague. By contrast, the source for the statement in the Dzhokhar article that the two did not arrive in the US at the same time is quite specific, and a more reliable source than "Wicked Local":


 * U.S. law-enforcement officials said the two brothers came to the U.S. at different times. Dzhokhar arrived with his parents in 2002, just before he turned 10. Tamerlan arrived on his own around 2004. The family was granted legal permanent residence in the U.S. in March 2007, a law-enforcement official said.

The source cited is Cullison, Alan; Sonne, Paul; Levitz, Jennifer (April 20, 2013). "Life in America Unraveled for Brothers". Wall Street Journal. This jives with what I recall reading at the time in mainstream news media. There were several in-depth profiles of the two in major publications so that we don't have to rely on Wicked Local; no disrespect intended, just acknowledging a fact about the perceived reliability of publication sources.

The Tamerlan article needs correcting. I will revise it accordingly.

Also, is there any information on when the sisters arrived? Ileanadu (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:20, 19 November 2015 (UTC)


 * In fact, the 2002 arrival date for Tamerlan contradicts the information in this same article under "Family background," which is the same as the WSJ article and the info in the Wikipedia article on Dzhokhar. Ileanadu (talk) 17:36, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

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Anzor Tsarnaev
I'm trying to clean up CAT:REF a little, and got here. The three references "HuffPost04192013", "HuffPostNoronha04192013" and "NYTimes04192013" were previously placed just after the statement that Anzor Tsarnaev "raised his children Muslim" (Special:Permalink/760796162). The references were lost on 21/25 January when the sentence was vandalised and then inexpertly restored. Later the text was deleted. I've chosen to comment out the references, rather than restoring the text, because I don't quite see those references verifying that statement. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:58, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

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Tsarni and Graham Fuller
The relationship between Tsarni and Fuller needs to be developed here, since the former was instrument in securing the access the Tsarnevs had to the US. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.12.203.138 (talk) 12:44, 24 October 2018 (UTC)


 * As best I can tell, the Tsarni–Fuller connection is not central to the topic of Tamerlan Tsarnaev. It seems to have received limited attention – mostly in somewhat fringe sources, and mostly several years ago. —BarrelProof (talk) 19:14, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

CS1 errors
Can you please help and fix all the error?? (2406:3003:2005:34F3:E184:626D:F369:4681 (talk) 11:31, 3 September 2019 (UTC))

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