Talk:Tamil Nadu/GA2

GA Review
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Nominator: 10:24, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Reviewer: Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk · contribs) 22:25, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

The article is quite lengthy, so I will need some time to review it. I hope to have review done within a week. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 22:25, 26 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for taking it up. Will wait for the comments. Cheers! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 04:21, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

This is a really strong article. I enjoyed reading it, learnt a lot from it. In my opinion, it's very close to Good Article status. There are just a few citation issues that need attention. Not surprising, given there's 590 ! It doesn't lack for reliable sources, but I have a few concerns.
 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * I did a detailed proofread of the entire article, and have some routine copyedits to suggest (minor grammar, occasional sentence structure issues, etc.). However, that is not part of the GA review process.  Once the GA process is done, I will raise those suggestions with you.
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
 * a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):  d (copyvio and plagiarism):
 * (1) One concern is that some of the older cites took me to dead links, or inaccessible links. I couldn't check all of the links, but I think it would be a good idea for you to check links that pre-date 2015.  That's the period  when I started noticing that I was getting the occasional dead link.  (2) There were also some cites that I didn't think quite supported the point being made, but I may have just been missing something.  (3) I'll list the links I had trouble with, at the end of this review template, and would ask you to take a look at them.  (4) I ran a copyvio check on the article and it came back with a "violations unlikely" rating.
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * Very broad and comprehensive, but focused on Tamil Nadu.
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * Detailed and descriptive, but not pushing a view point.
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * Some minor edits from other editors over the past few months, but nothing out of the ordinary.
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * I have a few comments about the wording of some of the captions, but that's not part of the GA review. I will share my thoughts on some copyedits after the GA process is complete.
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * I will put a one-week hold on the GA to let you take a look at the cite issues, which I'll outline next. Please let me know if that works for you.

Specific Citation issues I came across (using cite numbers as of this posting); would also suggest checking links that were accessed before 2015
 * 1. "This site can’t be reached. www.censusindia.gov.in refused to connect."




 * 2. Link goes to regulation about hiring individuals for linguistic diversity, not to the Official Languages Act.


 * : I've found a cite to the Act itself, which appears to be in force? : "The Tamil Nadu Official Language Act, 1956", Act 39 of 1956; published by PRS India; Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/1956TN39/mode/1up . I think that would be a better, direct cite, rather than to a Governor's Ordinance citing the Act?
 * ✅ (now note 3)
 * ✅ (now note 3)


 * 99. Eastern Deccan Plateau Moist Forests: "Oops, the page you’re looking for is extinct"


 * ✅ (now note 100)


 * 140. This cite is meant to support discussion of two zoos, Arignar Anna Zoological Park and Madras Crocodile Bank Trust, but neither is mentioned in the cite, as far as I can see?


 * ✅ (now note 134)


 * 160. This cite says it is for the "Indian Councils Act", but the link takes me to the general Britannica article on modern India, which does not mention the Indian Councils Act.  I think it should go to a different Britannica article, on the government of British India, which does have a discussion of the Indian Councils Act of 1861, under the heading "Government Organisation": https://www.britannica.com/place/India/Government-of-India-Act-of-1858#ref486263


 * ✅ (now note 164)


 * 165. "Term of houses" : I get "Access Denied"


 * ✅ (now note 169)


 * 166. "History of Madras High Court" - I get a security warning: "Your connection is not private".  When I tried it earlier today, I got an odd warning that my computer clock was running ahead of the website.


 * ✅ (now note 170)


 * 167. Same security warning; same odd warning earlier today.


 * ✅ (now note 170)


 * 258. This cite is to support this statement: "were held on a now vanished continent far to the south of India".  However, I could not find any reference to that comment in the text, which is partly available on Google Books.  Could you add a specific page number in support?


 * ✅ (new notes 263, 264)


 * 262. "Five fold grammar of Tamil" - I got a "page not found" error.


 * ✅ (now note 268; new note 269) - oops, that was my mistake;  forgot to click the "Archive" link;  sorry about that.


 * 298. This cite is to support the summary about Kootha dance, but I could not find a discussion of Kootha dance in the linked text. Could you add a pinpoint cite?


 * ✅ (new note 305)


 * 316. This link goes to the current issue of Frontline, not to the one with the article from 2013.


 * ✅ (now note 324)


 * 358, 359, 360, 361. These cites are to support the number of banks in Chennai, but I couldn't find the numbers.  Am I missing something?


 * It was the reference to six banks that I can't find? The article in note 358 (now note 366) gives the 400 financial industries, but not the six banks.  The article in note 369 states: "six private banks teamed up with Indian Overseas Bank to form Bharat Overseas Bank", but that suggests they merged into Bharat Overseas Bank.  Am I missing a reference to six existing banks in Chennai?
 * ✅ (now notes 366, 367, 368, 369 and 370)
 * ✅ (now notes 366, 367, 368, 369 and 370)


 * 439. I couldn't find anything in this cite that supports the foundation date for the Spectator newspaper, nor that it had been the first newspaper owned by an Indian.


 * ✅ (new note 447)


 * 501. Got a "Sorry! Error 404 - Page Not Found" message.


 * ✅ (new notes 510, 511)

Hope you find this helpful. Please feel free to ask me any questions you may have. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 03:23, 3 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I just remembered one other cite that I was puzzled by: # 159, citing Basu’s Intro to the Constitution of India. It’s cited to 1960, with LexisNexis Butterworths as the publisher. To the best of my recollection, LexisNexis Butterworths resulted from a merger in the early part of the 21st century, so I wonder if the year and the publisher given in the cite don’t line up? And is there an edition number for the cite? (By way of comparison, my copy of Basu is 17th Ed, 1987, with Prentice as the publisher.)
 * ✅ (new notes 162, 163)
 * ✅ (new notes 162, 163)

Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 04:05, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz, Magentic Manifestations (talk) 08:27, 3 June 2024 (UTC)


 * ✅ (auto-check on cites by Magentic Manifestations using IABotManagementConsole [1.3], June 3, 2024)


 * Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 16:21, 8 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Mr Serjeant Buzfuz, Magentic Manifestations (talk) 13:25, 11 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 13:34, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Forgot to update item 2(b) in the template; changed it to "y";  should be good to go. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 14:00, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Mr Serjeant Buzfuz Hi, Thanks! You need to complete the review by replacing the template in the talk page as per WP:GAN/I and adding it to the list of good articles. Thanks! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 02:23, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Done! Sorry for the delay.  Had work and family commitments yesterday. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 13:18, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Cheers! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 15:19, 12 June 2024 (UTC)