Talk:Tamsui District

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I moved this page from Tamsui because "Danshui" is now the most common name (used, for example, on MRT maps and highway signs). --Jiang 3 July 2005 10:38 (UTC)

I don't think so.You can search by google.Tamsui:324000,Danshui:147000,Danshuei:69500."Tamsui" is more than others.

And the Tamsui goverment use the name "Tamsui".You can see here.--Alicekey 08:11, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

This is wrong: in English the name is still Tamsui. This move should be reverted. 218.170.156.23 14:09, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I think both ways would be fine, but a move should be carried out as a move; it shouldn't be carried out as a cut-and-paste, because that ruins the edit history of the page, which is necessary to comply with GFDL. --Nlu (talk) 17:08, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Y I moved to Danshui:
Well, just check the website... Hanyu Pinyin is official now... Gumuhua (talk) 22:05, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Might have made a mistake... a tourist site reflects Tamsui... Should I revert? Gumuhua (talk) 22:15, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

K, the sites:

For Danshui: http://www.tshs.tpc.gov.tw/ An a report using Danshui: http://www.chinapost.com.tw/travel/taiwan%20north/taipei/2007/10/11/126237/Danshui%27s-war.htm For Tamsui: http://en.tamsui.gov.tw/ Gumuhua (talk) 22:19, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Why "Dansui, Taipei" rather than "Danshui, Taiwan"?
Are there multiple Danshuis in Taiwan? Are the others notable? If not, then why this move? We don't say "San Antonio, Bexar", we say "San Antonio, Texas". We don't say "Hannover, Lower Saxony", we say "Hannover, Germany". When specifying locations in Taiwan, English speakers normally use "Taiwan" if they need to clarify where in the world they are talking about. Only if there is some potential for confusion (i.e. there are multiple locations in Taiwan having the same name) do they use more specific information such as the county name.

It's still Tamsui
Althougt here's name is Danshui, but it's address is actually "Tamsui, Taipei, Taiwan" http://www.tshs.tpc.gov.tw/fore/taindex_en.asp Alicekey (talk) 07:06, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

And it's address also is http://en.tamsui.gov.tw/

Yes, it should be "Tamsui". The only place "Danshui" is used as an English name in the whole town is the Metro station, which is named by Taipei Metro, not by the local government. The official town website, as well as just about every sign, map, and store in the whole town, uses "Tamsui" as the English name. I'll change the name of the article, unless someone wants to dispute it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.45.211.82 (talk) 19:06, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Sister City?
The referenced article, "Chico gets a Southern Sister" makes no reference to Danshui, Taiwan or Taipei. It's talking about Mississippi, US. Ok if I delete this reference? The article referenced is here: http://www.newsreview.com/chico/content?oid=43367 Supertomcom (talk) 18:28, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Tamsui, new local government sets up the only name for translation
According to the executive council of Tamsui District, every government organization and school use the translation "Tamsui" for the signs. New Taipei City Government notified Taiwan Ministry of Education and Ministry of the Interior of the historic and traditional name "Tamsui" as the only English translation name on May 24, 2011.

I suggest our moving everything Danshui to Tamsui. Necbest (talk) 19:34, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The common name is not always the government's name. See WP:COMMONNAME. &mdash; HXL's Roundtable  and  Record  21:19, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I second that. Tamsui is the official rendering now according to the local government (where it has always been used) and the government of New Taipei, which encompasses it. This rendering is a romanisation of the Taiwanese place name rather than the Mandarin. Both languages are in popular use, of course. Alton (talk) 02:50, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

The whole section regarding the name needs to be re-written, the references also are poor. A link to images from the Japanese era do not legitimise "official" Taiwanese name for a place in the slightest, being that the official language used at that point was Japanese. I believe the Romanji would be Tansui infact.

It's contradictory that the second paragraph says that from 1950-2010 it's official name was Tamsui Urban township. So we have paragraph 2 that states during the martial law period, when speaking Taiwanese was shall we say "discouraged" the offical name was Tamsui, then the next paragraph states that in 2011 it was changed to Tamsui rather than Danshui. Maybe some mention of when Danshui was the official name? Possibly that happened somewhere between 1950 and somewhere in the early to mid 90's when things like Taiwanese nationalism didn't get you sent to the tennis club on Green Island? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.169.196.207 (talk) 19:08, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Can someone look at the inbound links since I'm not familiar with the topic and some could be for the city. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:17, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Danshui District → Tamsui District – Tamsui District is now the official romanization for 淡水區. See discussion above. — ASDFGH =]  talk? 19:02, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Support since it's the official romanization now. -Multivariable (talk) 19:49, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Support a move to Tamsui per WP:UCN and evidence presented in previous sections. Since there is no ambiguity, "District" is not needed per WP:UCN and WP:NC-CHINA.  —  AjaxSmack   00:39, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note Tamsui may sometimes refers to the Tamsui River. — ASDFGH =]  talk? 06:39, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe. But the river is at Danshui River and "Tamsui" currently redirects to Danshui District so evidently there's no ambiguity.  The city is the primary topic.  —  AjaxSmack   08:31, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Support + District as proposal. All other 區 in the Category have 區 after the name, and no one would say 淡水 without 區 in Chinese, nor in writing an envelope in English without "District" would that increase the chance of Chunghwa Post delivering it ;) We need to keep postal realities in mind when labelling town districts on Wikipedia In ictu oculi (talk) 14:27, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not the Chunghwa Post and and doesn't do official names or postal names (cf. The Bronx). And not that it matters (per WP:UE) but many people say 淡水 without 區 in Chinese.  I would wager most residents would say "I live in Tamsui" (「我住在淡水」; Wǒ zhù zài Dànshuǐ / Goá tòa-tī Tām-súi), not "I live in Tamsui District".  The fact that the MRT station and line are both called "Danshui" supports this.  —  AjaxSmack   03:14, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Taipei MRT is changing the name from Danshui to Tamsui these days,so it's the official name now.And many people say they live in Yonghe/Banqiao/Xinzhuang/...... without saying district in habit too,so there's no excuse not to move the page name.TsubasaTW (talk) 04:04, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
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And another request for Talk:Danshui River. 219.84.209.163 (talk) 07:47, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

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