Talk:Tangier, Virginia/Archive 1

Climate?
I'm curious to know if the island has a milder climate than the closest inland areas of Virginia. What is the climate like there? Are there any palms there and also curious if there are any alligator there, etc. Thanks.

There is...
There is a particular genetic disorder which is peculiar to this island. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.53.214.174 (talk) 20:33, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

This things reads like it was written (poorly I might add) by the Tangier tourism board. This is an absolute travesty. --King Al (EDT 13:27, 12/14/2006)

Why is there almost no mention of the extremely unique and almost unintelligible dialect spoken there???? -Laikalynx 01:52, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It'd be nice to have youtube or audio link... their dialect sounds more like the English of East Anglia (Norfolk and Suffolk) in the east of England, than a proper American accent lol.
 * Tangier Island's depiction had been featured on several National Geographic magazine reports, a special study for its' historically isolated culture and way of life. Tangier Island is what may be a rare community of Cornish or Manx peoples living outside Great Britain although the article stated they hailed from either Scotland or England when the first settlers arrived on the island in the 1700's. The two Celtic minority peoples are said to revived their formerly endangered languages, but a very small percentage can speak Cornish (of Cornwall) or Manx) (of Isle of Man) fluently in their homelands and elsewhere in the world. Tangier Island, being the town of Tangier continues to intrigue and fascinate outsiders who are increasingly visiting the island as tourists in recent decades. + 71.102.2.206 (talk) 11:19, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

My husband and I visited Tangier Island July 2. What a glorious beautiful boat ride it was on the Chesapeake Breeze from Reedville, VA. We found the island to be very inviting. The main point that makes me write is that I am 99% sure that Tangier Island has a Maryland zipcode. The two hour layover was more than enough to take the golf cart tram tour, see two typical tourist shops, and have a delicious lunch at the Charter Cafe. However, I would like to go back to do an overnight and take advantage of the beach which we did not get to see. Some facts we were told: one police officer, one long time mayor by default, (unopposed), 15 teachers, 12 of which were born and raised on the island and came back, and the 2007 graduating class was one of the highest in awhile, being 8 seniors! The island is 5 miles by 1 mile and 75% uninhabitable. The houses are typical beachy cottage style homes and some are delightfully landscaped. This would include special parking spots for the vehicle of choice which are golf carts. There is also a modern equipped Volunteer Fire Station. Criminals are sent on a free boat or plane ride one way to Maryland. Most of the residents do own cars but garage them in Maryland also. While we waited to reboard, the mail boat docked with day trip residents returning home, as well as the supplies for the one and only grocery store! The supplies were off loaded using a John Deer tractor and pallets! The ride from Reedville takes 90 minutes which covers 18 miles. Tangier Island is 11 miles from the Maryland side. I truly believe this is a great day trip to take. It will in the end make you appreciate the typical lifestyle and conviences that most of us have. Enjoy the ride!75.137.63.6 18:29, 12 July 2007 (UTC)mp

Could anybody get more pictures?
and then donate them to the public domain or to wikipedia via the file upload function on the left?

Smallbones 14:05, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Merge Discussion
Discussion to merge Tangier Island Into Tangier, Virginia

Support
 * Support as proposer The Tangier Island article is poorly written and sourced. I think that it will be better if these two similar topics are put together. --Fiftytwo thirty (talk) 03:04, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Oppose

Comment

"Unique dialect"
Prior to the arrival of the American colonists to Tangier, it was a summer retreat to native Americans for centuries ... Its people speak a unique English Restoration era dialect of American English, hypothesized to be nearly unchanged since the days of its first occupation by English colonists ... Each of the original surnames and several of the present surnames on the island originated in the United Kingdom, predominantly from Scotland

I imagine that statement could be made of a thousand and one places in the USA. The dubious "unique" language claim is certainly made of many isolated places. Do we even know where these English/Scottish/American colonists came actually from? Flapdragon (talk) 21:40, 20 June 2010 (UTC)


 * The dialect is special.
 * The island warranted an episode in the 1986 documentary series The Story of English by Robert MacNeil of the MacNeil-Lehrer Report on PBS. There was also some coverage in the book which accompanied the series.
 * Varlaam (talk) 03:38, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You can hear the range of the accent in this BBC report:
 * The disappearing island in the Chesapeake Bay
 * But it is not very extreme in these examples.
 * The way I remember the introductory speaker in The Story of English was he was incomprehensible, or verging on that — the episode was using him for dramatic effect, basically, "Yes, this man is speaking English. And he is American." at which point the TV viewer is perhaps left dumbfounded. A Newfoundlander with the strongest possible accent can achieve the same effect if he's trying.
 * Varlaam (talk) 15:38, 26 October 2011 (UTC) (Canada)


 * To someone from the UK, the strongest of the accent sounds like a mix of Southern US and West Country/Cornwall in the UK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.113.67 (talk) 03:37, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Original Research
I removed the following original research. If it can be properly referenced, it can be reinstated (after grammatical errors are corrected):

''It is widely reported the inhabitants of Tangier are largely descendants of John Crockett who settled the island in 1686, followed by population growth to 79 as recorded in an 1800 census. The US Census of 1820 calls this data into question. The 1820 Census reveals the population of Tangier Virginia at 133 with the most common last names in order of frequency as West (12), Watson (11), Sample (6), Walker (6), Savage (6), Thompson (5), Wise (5), Taylor (5) Crocket (5), Wyatt (4) and Tigner, Twiford, Teague, Cermillion, Junior and Scarborough all with three (3) occurrences each. In addition to John, Elisha, Pricilla, Henry and Zachariah Crocket [spelling as shown) in 1820, the only other names common to Tangier today were Whittington Shores, Job Parks and Joshua Thomas; the later Rev. Joshua Thomas. In light of the previous paragraph, it’s likely that Tangier owes it lineage today to the West’s, Watson’s, Scarborough’s and others in addition to the historical reference''

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