Talk:Tanjong Pagar railway station

More info needed
I have added information about the dispute between the two countries. However, I leave it tagged "stub" as there are more info not written in the article yet. Joshua Chiew 16:34, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

The infomation on the article is somewhat outdated. I read the Lonely Planet's travellers' guide to Malaysia, Singapore and Brunei (the three countries is covered in the same book) and it has a travelling advice as follows: "Travellers who enter Malaysia by train may face difficulties when leaving Malaysia because the KTM officers at Tanjong Pagar railway station do not stamp your passports." This leaves some doubt to me : KTM is a railway company, and its officers functions as immigration officers at Tanjong Pagar? This may be an error in the book. "They do not stamp passports" is true - when my Singaporean uncle travelled to Kuala Lumpur by train, he noticed that his passport wasn't stamped. But what about the stamp in the article? About the Malaysian immigration officers stationed in Tanjong Pagar, according to the Immigration & Checkpoints Authority of Singapore website, it says that: "Embarkation of trains is still done at Keppel Railway Station, but train passengers can choose to disembark at Woodlands." The "Keppel Railway Station" refers to the Tanjong Pagar station. "Train passengers can choose to disembark at Woodlands" - this is quite reliable as it's from a government website. But Malaysian immigration officers need a presence either in Woodlands or Johor Bahru to clear the train passengers disembarking in Woodlands. Can someone help to find the relevant info? Joshua Chiew 07:31, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure about non-Malaysian passport but for Malaysian, it's true that the immigration does not stamp the passport. This is probably due to the reason that there's a chip in the passport and information is stored in the chip, hence, making the need of stamping obsolete. __earth (Talk) 11:25, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I remember that the Malaysian immigration officers didn't stamp my passport since a few years ago. I travel to Singapore almost every year - by road via the Second Link. Joshua Chiew 01:07, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Info on stamping passports
The info on the "do not stamp passports" was found on the Singaporean Ministry of Home Affairs website, at the last paragraph of the page. Joshua Chiew 09:07, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Removed from stub status
I think I have added enough info to the article and I removed it from stub status. Joshua Chiew 01:07, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Turgid writing
The last section on immigration is mindbending. Anyone want to clarify what it means? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.117.143.29 (talk) 03:00, 6 February 2007 (UTC).
 * First, let's look at the location of the three border control points: Tanjong Pagar railway station at the southern part of Singapore, Woodlands Train Checkpoint at the northern part of Singapore, and Johor Bahru railway station in Johor Bahru, Malaysia. Originally, all border controls are carried out at Tanjong Pagar. Singapore moved all its border controls to WTCP in 1998, while Malaysian border controls were split into two parts: Tanjong Pagar (northbound) and JB (southbound).


 * Train passengers travelling to Singapore (southbound) have their passports checked at JB and WTCP (i.e. Malaysia-->Singapore, the normal order). After clearing Singapore Immigration at WTCP, they have the option to leave the train system, or board the train and travel 30 minutes to Tanjong Pagar, since they have cleared both countries' border controls.


 * For passengers travelling to Malaysia (northbound), they must board the train at Tanjong Pagar and have their passports checked by Malaysian officials before boarding the train. After 30 minutes travelling north, the train stops at WTCP and all passengers must get down from the train to proceed to Singapore border controls. This results in the border checking order Malaysia-->Singapore, which is unusual, and technically the train passengers are in both countries at the same time. This irregularity led to the practice of not stamping the passports of travellers by Malaysian officials at Tanjong Pagar.


 * I hope that the above will clarify. It may need somebody to be bold to edit the article in order to make it clearer. -- Joshua  C  hi  e  w  11:25, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

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