Talk:Tantalus Range

Attn OMR: Extra indigenous bit?

 * To the Sḵwxwú7mesh, the local indigenous people of the area, the name of the Tantalus Range is tsekílx.

Would it be appropriate to add "The range is in their traditional territory, which is called the Sḵwxwú7mesh [term]"? As I recall it's not Uxuimixw, which is more like people/community and, er, might (?) be the proper term for as re-established- ost-Indian Act government of the Sḵwxwú7mesh; or would Uxuimixw have also the context of a state/territory, as I believe Ucwalmicw does in St'at'imcets. But there's another name for the physical territory, the space occupied by the Sḵwxwú7mesh, right? This question in the context of a series of articles or stubs at least on the Wild Spirit Places and also other articles like List of native countries in North America (think that's right...).
 * I've only seen/heard Sḵwxwú7mesh-ulh referred to as both the territory and the people. ulh just denotes belonging to.  I just found some sheets with placesnames, ones I didn't already have/know so it was cool.  Seen the Tantalus Range on here, seen it on there, added it.  As for other stuff, don't know, but I'll keep an eye out.  OldManRivers (talk) 06:24, 26 February 2008 (UTC)


 * P.S. Why are native peoples names always have the before them.  In certain instances I see "The Americans..." or "The Canadians...", etc.  But it's always persistent with indigenous nations.  I don't know English well enough to know what whatever is called, but I've always wondered why it's always like that.  I understand that Canadians is just the people of Canada (well actually, Kanada and Tiens mean Settler + To Sit in = Squatters.  Canadians = Squaters. lol)  Anyways, back to what I was saying.  Canada is a geographical name, which some indigenous peoples do but even then it's more akin to "Medeval Europe" then a nation-state country name.  In any case, there is always a persistence to add the before the indigenous name.  I want to know why, and is it really neccisary when non-indigenous equivalents don't do or can do without. OldManRivers (talk) 06:24, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Other ranges
There's no name for the range across the Squamish River which contains Cayley and owder Mountain et al; not even the Pemberton Icecap has a range name. But maybe there's a Sḵwxwú7mesh name for the massif/region? Or just for the Cayley area? Likewise the range down the west side of Howe Soudn; part of it is the Tetrahedron Range, but that doesn't include Elphinstone et al, just what's above Sechelt. So only named ranges are here; if unofficial names surface maybe they can be included, with cites; those there are official names (though North Shore Mountains isn't on NTSs-series maps). Most of the core Coast Mountains are unnamed ranges, some sporting unofficial-but-easy ones like the Waddington Range. Ditto with the subranges of the Garibaldi Ranges, otehr than a few small ones, like the Spearhead or Fortress. But in the quadrangle of the Squamish and Cheakamus and Lillooet and Elaho valleys there's nothing in the way of a named range, likweise what's beyond the Clendenning Range.