Talk:Tanya Burr

Tidy Up Article
I've updated the page with relvent information and references and have tidy up the article to a readable standard as much as possible Lunamoon3 (talk) 03:33, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Contested deletion
This article should be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because Tanya Burr is not a real celebrity.

You can read a news article about her here - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2087822/Tanya-Burr-Blogger-YouTube-sensation-make-tutorials.html You can also read a Q&A for Elle Magazine - http://www.elleuk.com/beauty/make-up-skin/make-up-features/elle-twitter-q-a-with-tanya-burr#image=1


 * This article should be deleted. This person is not notable enough to be included. YouTube is not a viable source or citation, nor is Facebook, nor is the subjects own webist... among other problems.

Contested deletion
This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (meets WP:BASIC and deserves at least an WP:AfD discussion) -- Roberticus (talk) 11:40, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

GNG tag should be removed?
I am counting 4 WP:RS at present, and feel this tag should be removed... perhaps replaceable with an "add'l sources needed" tag... just my 2 cents Roberticus (talk) 11:54, 15 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Citations


 * YouTube, Facebook, and the subjects own web-site are not appropriate sources for notability. Objective, editorial sources are the only standard by which notability can be established.  The single article noted is insufficient in terms of notability. Etrangere


 * Correct, primary sources can't prove notability, but primary sources may be used to some extent... as I mentioned above at least 2 and possibly up to 4 of the sources currently in the article do indicate WP:SIGCOV, which is why I objected to the GNG tag, but didn't removed pending further comments... Roberticus (talk) 01:35, 16 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Ok. I understand and will read more about the process. Thanks for the feedback.   Etrangere ( talk )

Delete
In an attempt to verify notability I was unable to locate any editorial, objective example of notability for this person with an internet search. Though there is a great deal of self promotional content, that does not equate to notability. Etrangere

Nominated for Deletion Discussion
I don't believe the user Roberticus should remove tags simply because he objects to them (?). Is there some personal connection to the subject to the article? I've made note of legitimate reasons that this page does not meet notability standards and have again nominated this article for the deletion process while agreeing with the administrators suggestions that Speedy Deletion is inappropriate in this instance. The citations used - YouTube, Facebook, etc. are not sufficient or appropriate indications of notability or need for inclusion on Wikipedia. In searching for notability myself in an attempt to improve this article I found no credible, editorial, objective, references or articles about the work, accomplishments or position of Tanya Burr. Thanks Etrangere
 * Believe what you like, but I removed the PROD tag per the instructions @ WP:PROD: "To object to and therefore permanently prevent a proposed deletion, remove the tag from the article." One is not allowed to simply remove CSD tags though, which is why I didn't, exactly as I explained above... AfD is the best place for this because there's a discussion, and it seems the article's there now... Roberticus (talk) 01:29, 16 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I think I understand. I will try to address the deletion in the proper way.  I thought I had completed the process but will try again. Thank you.   Etrangere ( talk )

Help with incomplete Afd nomination
It looks like User:Etrangere has tried to nominate this article for AfD, but didn't complete the process... can someone straighten this out as they made an an add'l edit and I'm not sure how to fix... Thanks Roberticus (talk) 01:50, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I have undone the AfD tag and left a note on Etrangere's talk page with instructions how to properly file one. Mkdw talk 02:05, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

New picture
Could someone add a new picture because this one makes her look like a little person Aacfsftw (talk) 11:31, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Not an actress
This page keeps getting vandalism from what looks like her PR. Tanya burr is an aspiring actress.

She has had two extra roles that only got named due to her stunt casting and usually wouldn't be credited as so short. It's very misleading to say she's filming for a major TV show when all she had is a few lines and one morning on set.

Her short movie was shot on a micro budget by her friend. The play that she is due to play the lead in is directed by one of her husbands close friends and she has faced huge backlash in the industry for this stunt casting. It's a tiny production in the Southwark playhouse with capacity at about 120. Tickets have still yet to sell out for a single night, with 10 days left until first show, despite her constant promotion online to her "millions of followers".


 * Agreed. The introduction cannot state she is an actress best known for her YouTube channel. This doesn't make sense. She's a career YouTuber, who has recently dabbled in acting. None of her acting exploits are hugely notable, and her stage debut was heavily criticized. Let's be sensible here. Orphan Wiki  21:45, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL, whether she's an actress or not
I have no idea who this article subject is (I don't watch YouTube, I'm not British, and I don't wear makeup) but the references to the play are not appropriate under Wikipedia editorial guidelines until the play has actually commenced. See WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL. This is not a function of personal animosity but application of editorial guidelines by an entirely uninvolved volunteer in another part of the world. Any restoration of this content will be deleted until there's a reference from a reliable source that at least one performance has actually taken place. -  Julietdeltalima   (talk)  00:33, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Inaccuracies within stage debut and cosmetics line
In the Tanya Burr article, there is a reference to Burr's stage debut which reads: 'She is making her stage debut in May 2018'. Since this is now in the past, this should probably be changed to: 'She made her stage debut in May 2018'. 'She plays the lead role of Ella' should also be changed to: 'She played the lead role of Ella'. Another issue is within the 'Cosmetic brand' section of the article. A line reads: 'Stylist magazine reported in 2016 that one Tanya Burr Cosmetics product is sold every two minutes'. I suspect this may have been added by Burr's PR team; this could be a conflict of interest. Of course, I can't know, but it sounds like an advertisement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.106.30.64 (talk) 10:56, 13 August 2018‎ (UTC)

Filmography
Her IMDB suggests 2+ new projects, if this could be updated within her filmography table, this’d be great. Joesimnett (talk) 14:24, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Middle name
Her middle name is 'Jayne', per Companies House records (which I've seen used as sources in many articles, so should be OK here too?)- https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/I4KRUVlACEYiO8YDWFLVI7qHgCk/appointments Worth adding to article?
 * No, absolutely not per many reasons, the first of which begins with a combo of WP:BLPPRIVACY and WP:NOR. Also if it's not important enough for RS to report it, it's not important enough to add to the article. Praxidicae (talk) 16:33, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Haha, OK then- someone better go tell the people using that site as a source in literally hundreds of articles on here, though..!

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 October 2020
Please amend her profile photo to this, the previous one is over 7 years old. (talk) 10:53, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: This image violates the Image Use Policy and has been removed. Deceptive licensing claim. Downloading an image from Instagram and then uploading to Commons does not make it "own work".  Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:17, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I have changed the photo, because the photo has now an OTRS permission. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 12:16, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

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Parents
This July 2021 Telegraph article- https://www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/people/tanya-burr-keeping-new-relationship-wraps-overshared-social/ - starts "It’s almost 12 years since Tanya, the eldest daughter of Melanie, a teacher, and Neil, a web designer, posted her first beauty tutorial video on YouTube, going from working on the make-up counter in a department store to becoming one of the UK’s most popular vloggers."

Since parents' names/ details are usually included in biographical articles if reliably sourced, probably worth inclusion?

Wording
"Burr copied the advice of makeup artist and sister-in-law Samantha Chapman and created a YouTube channel" - this is a very unnatural English locution, and seems designed purely to shoehorn in the concept of "copying", as in going out of the way to imply her content was derivative/ based upon that of Chapman (certainly people have in the past elsewhere- such as under YouTube videos- made pointed comments on her having started her YouTube career with an existing connection to Chapman). Even were that the case (without a reliable source can't be stated), "Burr took the advice of her sister-in-law, makeup artist Samantha Chapman, and created a YouTube channel" is a far more natural and less pointed way of saying this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.47.178.107 (talk) 22:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)