Talk:Tara Grinstead murder case/Archive 1

Capitalization of "G" in Grinstead
Does anyone know why the article displays a lower - case "g" for the last name of the subject of the article ? And how can I fix it ? I created this article earlier today. Thanks for your attention.Tara grinstead friend (talk) 22:55, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Contested deletion
This page should not be speedy deleted because... --Tara grinstead friend (talk) 23:30, 7 June 2011 (UTC) I have added three sources. Had to do it using several edits over the course of two hours. I did it slowly but surely. Please do not delete it right away. Can you say something on the Discussion page ? Thanks.Tara grinstead friend (talk) 23:30, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, TGF. I just left a message for you at your talk/discussion page; I imagine you'll have seen that already. I'm going to search for additional news sources, and see whether I can help. Will report back soon. Best, –  OhioStandard  (talk) 05:51, 8 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, I've removed the speedy deletion tag. It had been tagged under criteria G4, meaning it was a essentially a repost of an article that had previously gone through a 2005 "Articles for Deletion" process. In its present form (as I write this) with its current lack of sources, the tag was understandable. But the case has received an extraordinary amount of press coverage, both locally and nationally, and much of it since that 2005 AfD process. I'll list some of the sources I've found in a separate section, below. –  OhioStandard  (talk) 07:09, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Reliable source coverage
Okay, here are some additional sources I discovered, just using plain Google. No Proquest search needed, no search of Google News or Google News Archive performed:


 * Five years after disappearance, case "is the largest active investigation by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation." ( scroll to bottom of page for WP:RS bonafides. published approx October, 2010. )


 * 48 Hours Mystery: Stolen Beauty, Text and video. Story ran 1 July 2008. CBS News.


 * On the Record w/Greta van Susteren, "Where is Tara Grinstead?". (Transcript.) Story ran 7 November 2005. Fox News.


 * On the Record w/Greta van Susteren, "Relatives Furious". (Transcript.) Story ran 24 January 2006. Fox News.


 * Nancy Grace show on CNN: New Details in Search for Tara Grinstead, story ran 8 November 2005. CNN.


 * CNN Justice: Missing beauty queen was mending a broken heart, 30 September 2008. CNN


 * False claim of murder - serial killer hoax. Story ran 20 May 2010. ABC News.


 * Missing Georgia Teacher Tara Grinstead Presumed Dead. Published 23 December 2010. AOL News.


 * Dateline NBC: What happened to Tara Grinstead?. Story ran 30 April 2006. ( updated following day. ) Text and video. NBC.


 * Dive team searches creek. WALB News. Story ran 15 March 2011. Updated 19 March 2011.


 * Investigative psychologist joins search for Tara Grinstead Story ran 7 March 2006. Tifton Gazette.

At least some of the content from at least some of these sources will have to be introduced into the article, along with corresponding references, of course, if this article is to be retained on Wikipedia. I'd suggest, at a minimum, at least four of the above should be so included. While more sentences would be desirable, having even a couple of sentences that summarize each article or some fact presented in each article, with those sentences having references listed, would be enough. – OhioStandard  (talk) 08:36, 8 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks so much for helping with that. I'm going to study those sources and create some Wikipedia - like passages that summarize them. The only other source I know of that would enhance the article is a Dateline NBC television broadcast that more recently was reedited for a basic cable channel called Investigation Discovery.  It is the only source I can find on law enforcement officers' recent approach to the Grinstead mystery. The relatively new approach is that the details of what happened (home was neat and tidy, no sign of struggle, no sign of forced entry, some people said she started a new life voluntarily, etc.) are strikingly similar to the details of another missing woman's case:  that of Jennifer Kesse.


 * Jennifer's article doesn't mention Tara Grinstead. I'm going to find out if clips from this television documentary are on a website.  Maybe the clips mention law enforcement officers' awareness of a Grinstead - Kesse parallel.  Final details that could belong in the article:  one vanished three months before the other, and both lived near the same interstate highway:  Interstate 75 that connects Georgia with Florida.Tara grinstead friend (talk) 22:40, 8 June 2011 (UTC)


 * You're very welcome. I hope the exposure this article provides will help in some way; good on you for creating it. Perhaps I should mention, though, that since this is "the encyclopedia anyone can edit", you'll likely see content included sooner or later that you disapprove of, perhaps content that challenges your view of who might be implicated in the crime, if crime there was. I just want you to be prepared for that. If some living person is named herein as a possible suspect when no charges have beef filed, for example, that would very likely violate our WP:BLP policy, and could be taken to our notice board for such matters.


 * Re your comments, yes, there's a 30 April 2006 Dateline NBC program listed above; I have the vague recollection that there might (?) have been more than one episode produced by them about the case, or perhaps just different "Dateline" pages that all link to the same video. And although I didn't label it clearly, the very first link above is to an Investigation Discovery page. I think you have enough here to work with, for now, though, so I'm going to remove this article from my watchlist. But feel free to drop me a note on my talk page if you run into obstacles. Best regards, –  OhioStandard  (talk) 03:24, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Title
I think it is uncontroversial that until she went missing, Tara would not have qualified for an article here. Therefore the title of this article should be disappearance of Tara Grinstead. We have good precedent in murder of Sally Anne Bowman and death of Gareth Williams. &mdash; RHaworth 09:19, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

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Renaming since it is now a murder case
I am renaming this Tara Grinstead murder case since with the arrest her fate is known, even if her body has not been found. Daniel Case (talk) 06:54, 27 February 2017 (UTC)