Talk:Tatsuji Suga

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This article needs to be researched a little more carefully. Suga died before CSU Sacramento was even founded so he obviously did not study there. I am removing the blurb because of that but if someone can show me what was intended to be said, that would be great.

Use of Wikipedia pages as unacknowledged sources by an academic: Children of the Camps: Japan's Last Forgotten Victims by Dr Mark Felton
A book published in January 2011, Children of the Camps: Japan's Last Forgotten Victims by Dr. Mark Felton of Fudan University in Shanghai has clearly used both the Wikipedia Batu Lintang camp page and the Tatsuji Suga page as the main source for his information on Batu Lintang and Colonel Suga, without acknowledging this use. I started and am the main editor contributing to both these pages.


 * All the information that is in his book is already in these two Wikipedia pages or can be extrapolated from them.
 * Some of the speculative and interpretative information that he has added in his book is incorrect, presumably because he misunderstood the Wikipedia information. Some of the errors are basic and show he had not fully researched the subject.
 * All fourteen of the quotations he uses in his book are in these two Wikipedia pages. He even uses the misquotation of a passage that I misquoted. Bit of a smoking gun that.
 * The basic layout of the relevant passages and the phraseology in Felton's book very closely echo the layout and phraseology I used for the Batu Lintang and Tatsuji Suga pages.

I have been researching this camp for eight years, and so know it pretty well by now. I am not claiming 'authorship' in any way. I based the Batu Lintang page I made in 2007 on many different sources, not all of which I cited. Felton publishes information from these uncited sources, yet only cites Ooi Keat Gin, Southwell and Firkins as his sources: he wouldn't be able to cite the other sources as he wouldn't know what they are. I summarised many sources to create the Wikipedia Batu Lintang page; Felton has clearly used the Batu Lintang page and yet quoted the sources I used as his main sources, rather than acknowledging his massive debt to Wikipedia. By not acknowledging Wikipedia, Felton is passing off other people's research and hard work - it took me a bloody long time to put those pages together - as his own.

So Felton 2011 should not be used as a source for the Batu Lintang page or the Tatsuji Suga page, as Felton 2011 is in itself based on and a 'mirror' of these two Wikipedia pages. Jasper33 (talk) 16:33, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

WP: Japan & Mil Hist Assessment Commentary
This is already a well-researched article on an interesting figure I had no previously heard of. He must have been pretty conflicted between conscience and duty. I assessed it as C-class for lacking references, mostly in the first section on the early part of his life. The "Evaluation" section could also use a couple of references, especially in regard to the information from Quartermaine. Finally, there should be a consistent style with the quotes. The one in the Evaluation section is in italics. All of them should have something that sets them apart from the text besides an indent, either italics or quotation marks. Good luck. Boneyard90 (talk) 14:49, 7 December 2011 (UTC)