Talk:Tavisuplebis Moedani, Tbilisi

Name of the square during Russian rule
Dear Steelmate, please stop blindly reverting my edits. The square was named after Paskevich who once served as the Viceroy of the Caucasus with his residence at Tbilisi and was bestowed with the title of Count Erivansky. There was a well-established practice to name the squares and streets in the viceregal capitals after Russian viceroys and governors. Your reference say nothing about the origin of the square's name, but only provides its literal (and imprecise) translation from Russian. Hope this helps, --KoberTalk 20:30, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Dear Kober are you suggesting that Erivan has nothing to do with Yerevan? It is on Pashkecihc's page that references Erivan to Yerevan, please check it out, and let's come to mutual conclusion and avoid the edit wars. Steelmate (talk) 20:54, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * What are you talking about? The title of Graf Erivansky was conferred upon Paskevich due to his capture of Erivan from Iranian army. The square in Tbilisi (which was a viceregal capital) was named after him. What is unblievable in this? Do you really think that a central square in the major provincial capital was named after Erivan which was nothing but a small fortified town in the 1820s? I can give you dozens of references for that, but they are in Georgian and I know for sure you won't believe them. What do you actually want? --KoberTalk 21:08, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I will need to do investigation. May be you are right and it is only the title of Paskevich that influenced the name. I will get back to you on that. Steelmate (talk) 21:17, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Renaming the article
According to this Wikipedia rule Naming_conventions : "article naming should prefer what the greatest number of English speakers would most easily recognize..." I searched Google News, non of them have hits for "Tbilisi Tavisuplebis Moedani", but many hits for "Tbilisi, Freedom Square". Therefore think the article should be renamed to reflect name known to English speaking readers to "Freedom Square, Tbilisi". Any objections? Steelmate (talk) 18:26, 25 January 2008 (UTC)