Talk:Taylor Swift/Archive 1

Fancruft/NPOV
This article looks like it was written by her publicist or the president of her fan club. She is, as yet, a one-hit wonder... and it's at #11... on the country chart. Let's remove all the "freshest" and "amazing" stuff that's cluttering this article. Irrespective of her talent, Wikipedia isn't a fan site. Iamvered 23:00, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I have to agree with Iamvered. POV and bias is off. --Crash331 06:22, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes for now at least. Teardrops On My Guitar is yet to release and is a very sweet sounding song with a nice hook.

Whatever your just jealous because she is so pretty and doing so well for herself at such a young age. GO TAYLOR!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.60.245.107 (talk)

Well you guys obviously must not follow-up on the news. Taylor Swift's newest song, "Teardrops on My Guitar" is currently at #21 on the Hot Country Singles and Tracks chart right now. You might also want to see that I have added a reference to her article, that is why I removed her reference tag. Go Taylor! LovePatsyCline 18:43, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Userbox

 * This is not the appropriate place for this userbox; take it to WikiProject UBX instead. Article talk pages are only for discussing improvements to articles; they not for general discussion about the topic.  Intelligent  sium  00:25, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, sorry, just saw another use of it. The Arbiter  ★★★  01:27, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Liz Rose - songwriter is never mentioned
Why is Liz Rose, the songwriter who's crafted the biggest hits for Taylor Swift never mentioned? SESAC awards Rose for these songs, but she doesn't get any credit in the Swift story as it appears on Wikipedia eg. from http://www.cmt.com/news/country-music/1622604/sesac-honors-songwriter-liz-rose-for-taylor-swifts-you-belong-with-me.jhtml "Rose has been Swift's principal co-writer since Swift made her recording breakthrough in 2006 with 'Tim McGraw,' a song they jointly composed. The following year, Rose won SESAC's country songwriter of the year award. In addition to 'You Belong With Me,' Rose's collaborations with Swift include 'Teardrops on My Guitar,' 'White Horse' and the title track of Swift's latest album, Fearless." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.54.39.161 (talk) 23:11, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Boys Like Girls
Taylor is featured on Boys Like Girls song "Two Is Better Than One" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.33.250.2 (talk) 23:36, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

2009 VMA Kanye West Incident
Terry Moran reported that President Obama referred to Kanye West as a "jackass" in an "off the record" interview. I think it's worthy of noting alongside the other celebrity reaction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.21.82.64 (talk) 03:11, 15 September 2009 (UTC) 98.88.73.158 (talk) 04:46, 15 September 2009 (UTC)If you would call any of Kanye West's statements (including his apology on the first episode of the Jay Leno Show an apology, you might as well name me as Pope when Pope Benedict passes away.


 * lol u mad? yeah her singing sucks, but she's hot and in the end, that's all that matters... 99.236.221.124 (talk) 15:33, 22 September 2009 (UTC)


 * No, I'm more bothered that people try to make excuses for someone like West and his ilk. It shows the general lack of parenting the generation who primarily patronizes West suffers from. Niteshift36 (talk) 16:16, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Kanye West shouldn't have discriminated her just because she's young, white, and sings country. Alot of people online are saying that race has nothing to do with this, and im suspecting that alot of those people are black. Race has alot to do with this unfortunately. Kanye has done this alot, like most of you know, and it's been against white people in support of other black artists, including himself. I wish people would stop saying that race has nothing to do with it. Froggy26rk (talk) 08:32, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

It's been said that this was nothing more then a publicity stunt since both Kayne and Taylor share the same agent. Also shortly after this it does appear as if Taylor has alot going on and well putting 2 and 2 together this does have publicity stunt written all over it. These commercial events would never ever permit anything to happen that was unscripted, too much is on the line. Everything that has happened at these award shows are always planned ahead of time.

I wasn't prepared to edit the article since im not sure how credible things are but this link somewhat confirms things. Others may have more information on this.Woods01 (talk) 00:40, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * You're kidding right? You don't seriously think drunkenstepfather.com would pass as a reliable source for anything do you? Niteshift36 (talk) 04:10, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Children In Need 2009 (UK)
Taylor is going to perform on Children. In Need it says so here (on a wikipedia page so its a bit weird they havent noted it on her page) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_Need_2009

Co Writing Songs
Gerald Rankin writes most songs for Taylor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gerrycu2 (talk • contribs) 06:55, 19 July 2009 (UTC) Taylor Co Wrote Kellie Pickler's single "Best Days of Your Life"

She co-writes all of her songs if not she writes them herself. -- Proof; read the booklet in her album.

Song on Hannah Montana: The Movie Soundtrack
Taylor has a song on the soundtrack called "Crazier"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.230.96.109 (talk) 05:47, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Abercrombie & Fitch
Taylor was featured as a rising star in an Abercrombie & Fitch campaign —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.140.1.106 (talk) 05:27, 30 December 2008 (UTC) http://www.gactv.com/gac/nw_feature/article/0,,GAC_26499_4743992,00.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.140.1.106 (talk) 05:33, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

"—While most girls her age are cruising the mall to try on the latest from stores like Abercrombie & Fitch and Areopostal, rising country newcomer Taylor Swift is starring in an ad campaign for the trendy retailer. " -http://www.gactv.com/gac/nw_music_beat/article/0,,GAC_26067_5087557,00.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uthorns4 (talk • contribs) 05:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

-Taylor Swift is featured in the "RISING STARS" from a 2004 issue of Vanity Fair, Wentworth Miller, of Prison Break is also featured along with Chris Carmack from The O.C.

I Kanye's site is so strongly protected...why isn't Taylor's site just as secure as his??? Why is her's only "Semi-" protected? JoelleLynn (talk) 07:29, 14 September 2009 (UTC) Joelle JoelleLynn (talk) 07:29, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Probably because she was the victim, not the aggressor. Nobody has been here cursing her out.Niteshift36 (talk) 05:53, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Guitar
Is her guitar made of koa wood? Badagnani 00:43, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes. It's made by Taylor Guitars. Badagnani 22:53, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

This article contradicts itself on when she started writing. One line says age 12, the other says age 10. any verification on which it is?

it should be 12

"Teardrops On My Guitar"
This song was inspired by a true event during Taylor's time in high school. She liked a guy named "Drew Hardwick", who only saw Taylor as a friend and a go-to person for advice about his relationship with his current girlfriend.

This can be confirmed by Taylor herself in this YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3lyBXrzR3s —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lefty04628 (talk • contribs) 19:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Is there any reason the name Drew Hardwick is in quotation marks? Holford (talk) 00:30, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * "Some people" just "like" to "overuse" "quotation marks" for "no" reason. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 00:33, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Because of the use-mention distinction - the sentence is about the name "Drew Hardwick," not the person Drew Hardwick.VoluntarySlave (talk) 00:51, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't want to get into an edit war over this. The sentence and the song are about a person, Drew Hardwick. Neither are not about the name Drew Hardwick. To say that he has a particular name is simply to identify that particular person. It makes no sense to say that it is about the name. You can have a song about a name, e.g. "A Boy Named Sue" by Johnny Cash (though even this could arguably be said to be about the person and not the name), but this is not an example of that. Holford (talk) 12:31, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree the song is about the person, but the sentence as currently structured is about the fact that the person in question has a particular name, namely, "Drew Hardwick." To write "The song is about a person named Drew Hardwick" would be incorrect, because it states that Drew Hardwick is his own name; obviously that's wrong, because Drew Hardwick is a person, not a name. We could say "The song is about Drew Hardwick," but I kind of feel phrasing it that way implies that we expect people to know who Drew Hardwick is. Actually, I don't know if we need to mention the person's name explicitly at all. VoluntarySlave (talk) 17:12, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I am completely confused by the quotation marks as they stand. If I see a proper name in quotes like this, my assumption would be that the song is about a literal real-life person Taylor Swift knew and the name in quotations was a pseudonym she used to protect his identity. If the song is actually about a guy by the name of Drew Hardwick, then it doesn't need quotation marks. However, I agree with VoluntarySlave that I don't see the point in actually NAMING the person especially since there's no notability to him that I can see. It's not like, say, "He Stopped Loving Her Today" which George Jones wrote it about Tammy Wynette, who has notability in being a famous country musician in her own right as well as the notability of being Jones' ex-wife. Hardwick is just a high school crush from what I can tell here. Correct me on this if I'm wrong. GBrady (talk) 17:29, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

layout of article
will someone please fix the "rise to fame" section and the section underneath? most of the underneath section should be included under rise to fame. someone broke the article recently. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.44.65.254 (talk) 19:07, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey to the part where she "has written over 200 songs" add citation! I would but I don't know how! The website is http://www.songwriteruniverse.com/taylorswift123.htm thx! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Princess2217 (talk • contribs) 23:32, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

other work
just like to add that she has appeared in the video for no one is safe thing on youtube about the lawrence king death —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.177.60.232 (talk) 23:55, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Someone please edit the early life -section, someone has had some fun with it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.250.52.75 (talk) 05:36, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Taylor recently did a            with L.E.I. Jeans (Life Energy Intelligence) and is now the new face of the brand. http://www.leijeans.com/ Tayfan11 (talk) 19:35, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I went ahead and added that. Greenguitar3 (talk) 00:41, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Awards
Taylor WON the award for Top New Female Vocalist at the ACM's this year.Tayfan11 (talk) 19:10, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Taylor also won the Breakout Artist Award at the Teen Choice Awards on August 4th.

http://teenchoiceawards.com/pdfs/TC08awardswinners.pdf —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.18.113.168 (talk) 18:59, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Swift was also nominated for a grammy, best new artist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.81.82.173 (talk) 20:09, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Opinionated user
Does anyone have any idea who the user is that keeps adding vandalism to Taylor Swift's article. When I saw this article, this genius user wrotr profanity at the bottom of her page. They also wrote on the discography section; "to view an exhaustive list of her discography", which was so opinionated. This is an encyclopedia, if you can't follow the rules, don't write for us! Will someone who has the authority to, block this user, maybe they will learn a lesson from this. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 23:16, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * "Exhaustive" is a synonym for "complete". It doesn't mean anything negative. I've changed it to "complete" to avoid any confusion. Kaldari (talk) 18:49, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Factual Error
In the article it says that LeAnn Rimes is Taylor Swift's Grandmother. This is impossible due to multiple things: Firstly, LeAnn Rimes is 25 years old and secondly she has no kids, let alone grand kids. The article is semi-protected, so I can't edit it, someone else should fix that.

P.S. The source cited for this error has no evidence to support the claim. All the source says is: "It seems fitting that Taylor's first idol in country music was LeAnn Rimes. "I knew every song she ever sang," she says. LeAnn at the time was 14 years old, just starting her career." (Source 2 on Taylor Swift Wiki)

Jsmrcina (talk) 15:56, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * It says Swift's influences include her grandmother and LeAnn Rimes. I don't think you read the word and. Ice Cold Beer (talk) 16:42, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * That's funny I thought it said the same thing.- RudyReis —Preceding undated comment was added at 19:15, 9 November 2008 (UTC).

The sentence is not technically ambiguous but could be clearer; a quick reading will lead many to believe that LeAnn Rimes is Taylor Swift's grandmother. It should be revised. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.224.12.79 (talk) 14:10, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I read it and never thought that it said LeAnn Rimes was her grandmother. I guess that's the difference between reading ALL the words and just skimming. Niteshift36 (talk) 14:21, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

2nd Album's first single
Taylor confirmed the 2nd album's first single will be Love Story. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.176.11.125 (talk) 04:53, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Source? Nabudis Shadow (talk) 07:05, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

In the Fearless section, it says "Love Song" instead of "Love Story." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.249.120.243 (talk) 16:54, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Jonas Love (?)
should we mention that there is rumor going out that Joe Jonas is going out with Taylor Swift?? we just say that its a rumor! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.140.46.83 (talk) 21:43, 22 August 2008 (UTC) True or not, it should say Swift ONCE dated Joe Jonas not one dated Joe Jonas...
 * We only put facts in articles, not rumors. Nabudis Shadow (talk) 01:02, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Fearless Album Info
The Taylor Swift album is said to have 11 tracks. I think it would be IMPORTANT to add this info when the "fearless" link is clickable. heres the source for the album:  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lala111 (talk • contribs) 23:19, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Unprotect this page!
Protected for nearly one year? Shameful. 19:49, 11 November 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Foodmarket (talk • contribs)
 * If you for whatever reason, feel so strongly against the semi-protection of this page, request unprotection. Runefrost (talk) 21:11, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

27-second breakup
On 11/11/08, Taylor tells Ellen on the Ellen Degeneres show that Joe Jonas broke up with her in 25 seconds over the phone, not in 27 seconds, as currently stated in the "personal life" section of this post. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elba827 (talk • contribs) 15:37, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I do think it was 27 seconds. Runefrost (talk) 02:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * We have really reached the end of the world if any of what you are debating above actually matters... Stevenmitchell (talk) 04:50, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

First she said "When I find that person that is right for me, he'll be wonderful and when I look at that person, I won't even remember the boy that broke up with me in 25 seconds over the phone" Then she said "I looked at the call log and it said 27 seconds". So she probably rounded it down first. In all the articles and stuff, it says 27 seconds. Greenguitar3 (talk) 18:17, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

why does it matter? seriously, 25 or 27? who cares??? *dream on*dance on* 19:22, 16 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylor Lane (talk • contribs)

Bias
Some of these sentences don't sound neutral. For example "She boldly handed this tape to receptionists at every label on Music Row," "her rendition of the national anthem completely moved the crowd," etc. That sounds like it came from a fan writing about her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.61.115.88 (talk) 03:27, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

--its 27 seconds.. on Ellen she says about 25 seconds .. then elaborates and says .i looked at the call log and it said 27 seconds.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.140.1.106 (talk) 04:54, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

New interview may help with research
Swift's hometown paper just published an interview:

http://www.readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=116460

Coreymccarty (talk) 14:28, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Filmography
This NEEDS to be added under filmography:

editing needed
Why is the guitar necessary in the part about early life also this sentence is structured horribly 'Taylor Swift was born in Reading, Pennsylvania and lives with her parents, Scott and Andrea, and her brother, Austin,[1] in Nashville, Tennessee. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.168.147 (talk) 01:59, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * There is absolutely nothing wrong with the sentence about where she was born and with whom she lives. It is clear and grammatical. Your comments above, however, are ungrammatical.She is has mental issues. Ward3001 (talk) 23:14, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

It says her grandmother is LeAnn Rhimes....This is NOT true (unless by some miracle a 26 year old is the grandmother of a 19 year old, that would be quite impressive. She was one of her biggest Role Models!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.141.129.33 (talk) 20:47, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It is incredible how people fail to read. You're the second person (at least) to read the information about Rimes incorrectly. It says: "Swift's singing influences include her grandmother and LeAnn Rimes" (bold added). Ward3001 (talk) 23:14, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Piano?
In the artist information box, piano is listed as one of her instruments. I have never seen Swift playing piano while performing. If anyone has a picture or video clip please post it here; or we have to delete piano out of her instruments.

p.s. In a radio talk with Tim McGraw (Taylor Swift (Deluxe Edition) album, Track 15: Taylor's 1st Phone Call With Tim McGraw), she implied that she uses piano when writing songs. However it seems that she never plays a piano live. Does this count? Fa2f (talk) 04:35, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

She plays the piano here is the site with the picture of her playing piano..if you look closly you can see that she is singing and playing the piano. http://www.cmt.com/sitewide/assets/img/events/2009/acm/show/acm_awards_85814511-x600.jpg

Picture/website copyright www.cmt.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Comeon456 (talk • contribs) 00:00, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Body by Milk
I'm not sure that this is a "charitable" work. I'm not saying it is an unworthy activity, but I can't find any indication that celebrities are not paid for their endorsements. If they are paid, it's not charitable. Does anyone have information that I don't know about? Ward3001 (talk) 19:34, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree that endorsing a commercial product does not qualify as philanthropy. The "Body by Milk" campaign was Initiated by MilkPEP. MilkPEP's own words: "The Milk Processor Education Program (MilkPEP), Washington, D.C., is funded by the nation's milk processors, who are committed to increasing fluid milk consumption. MilkPEP activities are led by a 15-member board, which is monitored by the U.S. Department of Agriculture's (USDA) Agricultural Marketing Service." Please note that the nation's milk processors do not claim to be "committed" to the anything other than "increased...consumption". Daniel Jansen (talk) 01:27, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed....I removed it. She has actual philanthropy to cite. This isn't a charity. Niteshift36 (talk) 13:30, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

SNL
May want to add that she performed the songs "Love Story" and "Forever and Always" on her SNL appearance.Fewwiggle (talk) 21:05, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That's too much detail for this bio page. It's included on the SNL page. I just pipelinked the SNL mention to that specific page. We can't add every song performed in live performances mentioned in the article. Ward3001 (talk) 21:17, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

"That's too much detail for this bio page." The mere existence of this page proves there's no such thing as "too much detail". It reads like one long, droning press release -- and this is a comment from someone who enjoys her music. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.125.92.63 (talk) 17:19, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Could we at least note that she HOSTED snl on Saturday, November 7th? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdnjay (talk • contribs) 06:56, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

It may also be worth noting her parody of fellow Berks County-an Kate Gosselin during that 11/7/09 SNL appearance. One-Off Controbutor (talk) 09:50, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Taylor's Real Age
Her age is being called into question along with the likes of Akon, J.Lo, and a few others. Her birth date is listed as 1989, but some say she might be in her mid-20s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.35.75.64 (talk) 04:54, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * "Some say" could apply to any one of six billion people on the planet Earth. Do you have a reliable source (and that does not include tabloids, blogs, or chat pages). Something like the New York Times would be nice. Otherwise, please drop it. Ward3001 (talk) 16:09, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

She was born in 1989 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.18.128.40 (talk) 02:28, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

In one place her birth date is listed as 1989. At the top its listed as 1988. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.152.248 (talk) 06:02, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Add More to Taylor's Filmography Chart
You need to add more to the flimography chart:

Title:                                 Role: Ellen DeGeneres Show                    Herself Grammy Nominations                      Herself Dick Clark's Rockin' New Tears Eve      Herself CSI                                      TBA

And there are more too but I can't list them all. (96.249.232.61 (talk) 22:51, 28 January 2009 (UTC))


 * Every television appearance does not go into a filmography. Some bio pages don't include any TV appearances, only film. But if they are included, they need to be more than just an appearance or performance. If we include every TV appearance in articles, the filmography sections could be far too huge for a typical Wikipedia article. Ward3001 (talk) 23:02, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


 * In addition to what Ward3001 said, filmography and television appearences are two different things. Kb3mlmsk (talk) 16:23, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, first, as pointed out above, a TV appearence (especially one as yourself) is different than a filmography. Second, everything listed in the filmography chart is mentioned in the television appearences sections. There is no reason to list the same info twice. Which one gets removed? Niteshift36 (talk) 13:37, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Taylor Swift's guitar
Taylor Swift plays a custom-made Taylor Grand Auditorium acoustic guitar (model 914ce) made of koa wood. Badagnani (talk) 20:25, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The source you cite mentions nothing about "Grand Auditorium" or "model 914ce" in describing her guitar. The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. Please find a source with those specifics before adding it to the article. Ward3001 (talk) 20:51, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Email from Taylor Guitar's Public Relations Manager, 9 March 2009:

Badagnani (talk) 23:44, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * An email to you is original research and strictly forbidden as a source by Wikipedia policy. I could claim he sent me an email saying she plays a broom, but that doesn't mean it's true. Once again, the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth, and that means verifiable by anyone, not just you. Ward3001 (talk) 00:17, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

The same information may be found in the text and box on page 15 of this Taylor publication (it's a PDF file, so may take a few moments to load). Link: http://www.taylorguitars.com/woodandsteel/issues/ws_winter_2009.pdf

The text in the box is as follows:

Badagnani (talk) 00:55, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * That looks like a good source to me, but she uses several guitars, according to the source. We don't need to name every model she uses. I would say name the two identified in the source as the main ones (and "model 914ce" is not one of them), unless you get consensus here to include all of them. Ward3001 (talk) 01:09, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Her primary guitar seems to be the koa one. Badagnani (talk) 01:41, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Which is named in the article now, so need for changes, right? Ward3001 (talk) 02:15, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

The article should have specificity about this guitar, as it is used as an encyclopedic source by people around the world. Right now it's not specific. Badagnani (talk) 02:51, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Rolling Stone Magazine February 2009 Cover Story on Taylor Swift
The Very Pink, Very Perfect Life of Taylor Swift

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/26213623

bullying
i mean the 6th grade —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emily513 (talk • contribs) 19:41, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Find a reliable source about it, explain why it's notable enough for an encyclopedia (lots of kids get bullied), and then you can add it if you properly cite your source. Ward3001 (talk) 20:13, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I honestly doubt she was ever bullied in the 6th grade. Emily513 asked the same exact thing in the Demi Lovato article before posting here. Frehley Space Ace 03:53, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

she and her mom said it on e! true Hollywood story, young Hollywood a to zac. and the reason why it should be post is because she can be a inspiration for kids who got bullied. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emily513 (talk • contribs) 14:26, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Picture in info-box
I don't like the picture at all. I'm the only one who thinks she looks more Britney Spears than Taylor Swift in this particular picture?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthewfreile (talk • contribs) 16:08, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Then please find us a non-copyrighted image that is better, post a link to it here, and we'll consider it. And no, she doesn't look like Britney Spears in the pic, regardless of whether it's a good pic or not. Ward3001 (talk) 16:27, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * i'd hate to be the one to point it out, but the photo in the box at the top left isn't in the public domain, and retains full copyrights (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36703550@N00/1083571693/) . (i.e., it is not creative commons as is assumed).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.33.142.63 (talk) 19:58, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I as a former student of Ellis Middle School and Hendersonville High School student along with Taylor Swift and Abigail Anderson can from personal experience can say She was not bullied through here years in Hendersonville,Tn. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.18.128.40 (talk) 02:38, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Endorsements
L.E.I., the company she endorses in, is linked to Levi's Company, but the correct page is L.e.i._(company). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.118.48 (talk) 23:52, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Taylor Swift and T-Pain
You should put that Taylor Swift and T-Pain are working together to record a track. There are 2 links to it

1. http://blog.cmt.com/2009-06-10/whos-performing-with-taylor-swift/ 2. http://blog.cmt.com/2009-06-09/taylor-swift-working-with-t-pain/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.249.225.41 (talk) 22:13, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Nope. First, blogs are no good as sources here. Second, both links go to the same place. Third, the source says "yesterday I wondered out loud if Taylor Swift and T-Pain were recording a track together, but now it appears that a song might not have necessarily been their main objective". Bad source. Bad link. Bad understanding of English. Ward3001 (talk) 23:07, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * They did make a joke track together, but it's not really notable. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-yLjQz_BXg  Acro X  23:27, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Associated acts
Per Associated acts, Miley Cyrus, Colbie Caillat, and T-Pain should be removed from the associated acts section, as they have only collaborated with Swift once. I will remove them from the section. Pokerdance (talk/contribs) 22:53, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't George Strait, Brad Paisley and others that she went on tour with be in the associated acts section? That seems to be what is done on other artist pages.--Brian Earl Haines (talk) 18:06, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Picture
I was hoping that you could change her picture because she looks a bit different. http://viewmorepics. .  /index.cfmfuseaction=viewImage&friendID=27612962&albumID=341327&imageID=41453298 ,http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/1H/taylor-swift-lg.jpg, http://evilbeetgossip.film.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/taylor_swift_nye.jpg, http://viewmorepics. .  /index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=27612962&albumID=1377263&imageID=43438824, http://vipphoto.ru/idata/11027-0.jpg  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 13taylor (talk • contribs) 02:55, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

i dont kno wat pic u suggested but thanks for changing the eole one. tay looks great in this one and horrible in the other! *dream on*dance on* 01:31, 12 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylor Lane (talk • contribs)

Band Hero
She is going to appear as a playable character in the new guitar hero spin off band hero. I didn't see anything about it in this article. --Superchicken781 (talk) 23:55, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and added it. ShadowUltra (talk) 05:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Edit Request
First photo is not Taylor Swift —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.229.86.97 (talk • contribs) 04:39, 27 August 2009

Not done: Welcome and thanks for pointing this out. It seems to be a cropped picture of her. Why do you think it isn't? Celestra (talk) 12:55, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Birth City
I noticed that the article says that Taylor was born in Wyomissing, PA. But on her IMDB page it says she was born in Reading, PA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kodos84 (talk • contribs) 22:06, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Then her IMDB page is wrong. If you watch this video of True Hollywood Story based on Taylor Swift, you'll see that she is actually born in Wyomissing, PA not Reading, PA. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9yrtutnHjM&feature=channel I also read in articles that she was born in Wyomissing, PA. IMDB is not always accurate. Anyone with an account can go on and change things. Greenguitar3 (talk) 16:06, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

12 String Guitar
In the article it says that "Swift started writing songs and playing 12-string guitar when she was 12" but there is no evidence to show that this is true. I'm pretty sure that she learned to play a 6 string guitar not 12 string. Greenguitar3 (talk) 14:51, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Song List
There really should be a list of her songs added to the page so it isn't necessary to do a search on here for them. 208.111.243.55 (talk) 01:57, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

She is coming out with six new songs reference her Myspace blog. http://blogs. .  /index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=27612962&blogId=508937979

Queen of Country-Pop music
is she the Queen of Country-Pop music? or can't we call her like that?-- ·.·´¯`·.·ŜØŁҒ€Ө·.·´¯`·.·  °º¤ø,¸ŁĨβЭЯŦĂĐ Ұ ĴŮŚŢĬÇÏÁ°º¤ø,¸ 16:31, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

There is no evidence that people call her Queen of Country-Pop... And her music genre is Country not Country-pop. And I don't think the title of "Queen of Country-Pop" exists.. Greenguitar3 (talk) 01:27, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The folks over at AllMusic seem to think her style is country pop. From their review of Fearless: "Like many country-pop albums of the 2000s, the pop heavily outweighs the country". They list one of her styles as "country pop" in her bio. Niteshift36 (talk) 06:13, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

VMA Awards incident
This article mentions that Beyonce was nominated for the 'Best Female Video' award. This is not true. Beyonce was not nominated in this category.Semajws (talk) 19:45, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree with the above post. No Beyonce was not nominated for the 'Best Female Video' award. The nominees are Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, Kelly Clarkson, Lady Gaga and Pink. See attached link. http://www.mtv.com/ontv/vma/2009/best-female-video Amadao (talk) 03:16, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes it is. She was nominated for her music video "Single Ladies" that's why when Taylor Swift won, Kanye West grabbed the mic and said Beyonce's video was "one of the best videos of all time". Greenguitar3 (talk) 19:48, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

No, it's not true. Beyonce was nominated for (and won) in the category 'Video of the Year.' Taylor Swift was nominated for (and won) in the category 'Best Female Video.'  The two are two separate awards, and the distinction is important because Kanye wasn't trying to say that Taylor didn't deserve the award; he was simply acknowledging (in his weird way) that he thought Beyonce's video was great. - 21:22 14 Sept. 2009

wikipedia is STUPIT! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.32.164.58 (talk) 21:12, 14 September 2009 (UTC) — 173.32.164.58 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

About above comment, who wrote that?, that's so unnaceptable for wikipedia! respect wikipedia! Yes, it's true. If u can remember, beyonce really was nominated for, and another thing, check out 2009 VMA article here in Wikipedia and u'll find that we're right n u're wrong, sorry but that's true.-- ·.·´¯`·.·ŜØŁҒ€Ө·.·´¯`·.·  °º¤ø,¸ŁĨβЭЯŦĂĐ Ұ ĴŮŚŢĬÇÏÁ°º¤ø,¸ 03:48, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

While the MTV site suggests Beyonce wasn't nominated, many sources suggest she was. At first I wondered if they were mistaken but in fact if you look at the comments here it appears it's definite she was nominated and this is clear if you watch the award show. I presume the MTV site is mistaken or perhaps it was removed for some reason relating to this controversy. Regardless while we probably can't source things to the comment section even of a newspaper blog and by the blog owner, we can source, as we should, to all the secondary sources which do say she was nominated Nil Einne (talk) 14:34, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Just to clarify for anyone who is unsure, Beyonce was nominated for Best Female Video. And the MTV site does list her. Cliff smith talk  22:37, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Just a quick note, the site didn't list her earlier hence the earlier confusion from multiple sources. Unfortunately I didn't take a webcite archive so can't prove this but there was definitely only 5 videos listed before Nil Einne (talk) 14:44, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

philanthropy
I went ahead and moved a big section of philanthropy to personal life. Business agreements and corporate endorsements are not philanthropy. In fact, they don't belong under personal life either. Perhaps they don't even qualify as being important enough to warrant space in an encyclopedia article.  Jhonka  05:48, 16 September 2009 (UTC)


 * We could always create an Endorsements section or combine it with philanthropy under the title Endorsements and philanthropy. Flyer22 (talk) 22:39, 22 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I am not real fond of the idea about an endorsements section. I agree with Jhonkaman, most endorsement stuff isn't really encyclopedic. There could be exceptions (some record amount or groundbreaking area) but, in general, most celeb endorsements are just mundane. Now if you're talking something on the level of Michael Jordan and Nike (where it's money and a clothing/shoe line that becomes notable on its own), that might be different. But just getting some cash to use a guitar or make-up commercials isn't that notable to me. Niteshift36 (talk) 04:03, 23 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Valid points, Niteshift36. I definitely see where you are coming from on this matter. I was even thinking of big, notable endorsements myself. Michael Jordan might have even crossed my mind in that moment (I'm not sure anymore that he did, LOL). Flyer22 (talk) 23:07, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Heritage
taylor swift also known as megan sister is irish with alittl hispanic thrown in there. alot of people call her the smexi mexi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sogara (talk • contribs) 22:18, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Hey! Does anyone know Taylor's heritage? I've heard she's of Irish descent, but has that been confirmed?

Thanks~

Does anyone know this?

yes, she's asian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.92.115.246 (talk) 04:44, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

2009 Video Music Awards controversy section
I'm thinking we need to incorporate it back into her Music career section; it just seems out of place down there near the bottom of the article. Yes, Miley Cyrus and other celebrities have controversies sections here at Wikipedia, but that is often because they have more than one controversy and the substantial information is out of place in their Music career sections. And of course all these controversy sections better left distinguished by titles...unless all are short under the simple title of Controversies like the Kanye West article.

To be honest, I am confused about where this information is best placed within the article. Perhaps, we should simply leave it near the bottom of the article but shorten its title to Controversy. Then again, we know that even now, a lot of people who come across this article are looking for information about this topic...which means that the title may be better left distinguished (even though they would eventually fine what they are looking for soon enough). Flyer22 (talk) 04:44, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I was just trying to help because I thought that it isn't directly about her musical accomplishments or failures... so it would better fit in the bottom in a controversy section. If you want to put it back, you are more than welcome to. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 00:30, 1 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for weighing in, Ipodnano05. I knew your reasoning as soon as I saw what you did. You even explained in your edit summary that you were going for a similar look to the Miley Cyrus article with that edit. It is just that I am unsure of which is a better placement for that section. I will probably move it back for now, though. Flyer22 (talk) 01:00, 1 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Your welcome, I guess you are right... until she has had more than one notable controversy, it should stay on the section it is currently. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 01:04, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Associate Acts
How is Kelly Pickler, one of her best friends and cowriters on songs not included?

Because whoever is in charge of this page makes her look like some teenie bopper. George Strait, Brad Paisley, Kelly Pickler and several others that she has toured with or wrote songs with should be include in associated acts. Also, that awful picture that makes her look like britney spears should be replace. There are a million non copywrited songs of her out there--Brian Earl Haines (talk) 18:13, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Fearless Tour
in 2009 taylor swift went on her first headlining tour, later extending it into 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dannyboybilly (talk • contribs) 14:22, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Country Song?
"'You Belong With Me' ... the second country song in the chart's history to reach the top." How could anyone consider "You Belong With Me" a country song? --DOHC Holiday (talk) 16:57, 8 November 2009 (UTC) "


 * It's country pop. -- Mike Allen talk · contribs 01:18, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

She is a country artist that records in nashville, her label is in nashville and is played on country radio. that is why--Brian Earl Haines (talk) 18:09, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * So if Rammstein relocated to Nashville, they'd be country? --DOHC Holiday (talk) 04:38, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Rock Band/Guitar heroes.
Taylor swift can now be seen on the Rock Band/Guitar hero advert.

I'm not sure as to what type of game, but it's definitely her on the advert. Someone should add it on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.118.149 (talk) 17:51, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

It shoudl also be added with teh questioon why such a horrible artists was asked to be put into this game? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.94.73.248 (talk) 05:08, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Error on CMA Awards date
On November 13, 2009 Swift won four CMA Awards: Album of the Year, Music Video of the Year for ("Love Story"), Female Vocalist of the Year, and Entertainer of the Year.[92]

The date for the CMA Awards is November 11, 2009. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lavette11 (talk • contribs) 05:17, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I was just about to make the same suggestion. Do the CMA Awards have something planned for tomorrow? Haha —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.209.142.198 (talk) 05:53, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Fearless has topped the Billboard 200 in 11 non-consecutive weeks,[6] a feat no album has spent more time at number one since 1999-2000.
doesnt make sense —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.211.138.221 (talk) 05:07, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Best friend?
Is going into details about Swift's best friend really encyclopedic/worth inclusion in the article? Usually, such a relationship is only mentioned if the friend is at least somewhat notable in their own right, and presently the article doesn't demonstrate any such importance; if there is something though, it should probably be added (without getting too promotional). Is this person a singer, an actor, etc.? That said, on top of this, the source for the info is broken, making the info look less worthy of inclusion if it can't be sourced to something else.  Mbinebri  talk &larr; 15:13, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

yes, it is needed because Abigail is mentioned in her song Fifteen and is in the Fifteen music video and in the Picture to Burn music video. *dream on*dance on* 00:07, 1 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylor Lane (talk • contribs)

Vandalism?
I've noticed that all the instances of 'and' appear as 'but' for some reason in the article: has someone done and replaced all 'and's with 'but's? Someone please correct this

dawhipsta (talk) 12:41, 19 November 2009 (UTC)Whipster

taylor swift
She was born on december 13th 1989. Her real name is Taylor Alison Swift. Born in Wyomissing,Pennsyivania. Her father name is Scott Swift. Her mothers name is Andrea Swift. And her younger sibling is her younger brother Austin.

She was in the froth grade when she won a national poetry contest with a three page poem entiled "Monster In My Closet".

At ten,Swift began writing songs and singing at karaoke contests,festivals,and fairs around her hometown.During one summer,Swift devoted herself to writing a 350 page (unpublished)novel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.151.114.3 (talk) 02:06, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Comment
Is it possible to add a website link for a taylor swift forum?

If so http://www.taylorswiftforum.net (Taylor Swift Forum . NET)

If not please delete? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rbhammonuk3 (talk • contribs) 18:27, 3 December 2009 (UTC)


 * No, sorry, adding links to forums is against Wikipedia guidelines. -- Neil N   talk to me  05:39, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Taylor Swift grammy nomination.
Grammy nominees have been selected and why does it not surprise us that Taylor Swift is included as one of the nominee? I am proud to say that Taylor Swift is accounted as one of the Grammy nominee. She is one of the nominee along with the other album's such as Beyonce "I Am ... Sasha Fierce" Black Eyed Peas "The E.N.D."Lady Gaga "The Fame" Dave Matthews Band "Big Whiskey..." and of course Taylor Swift "Fearless". So far on a yahoo poll on which album is most likely to win the album of the year, Taylor Swift's album is on the highest chart with her album reaching up to 36% out of all of them. Beyonce's album reached up to 24%, The black eyed peas reached up to 13%, Lady Gaga's album reached up to 26% and Dave Matthews band reached up to 4%. Obviously Taylor's is the highest. ''If you would like to see the results in person here is the website where you can vote your self and also check out the results. It will be in the middle right hand corner'' http://omg.yahoo.com/ I hope that this information was useful to you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Afrida1220 (talk • contribs) 20:41, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Small error regarding her personal history
On her Wiki page, it says that Taylor won a national poetry award for a three-page poem. That is a factual error. The truth, according to the interview cited, was that she would write lengthy poems that could go as long as three pages. The poem that she won an award for was much shorter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Katyjen (talk • contribs) 10:01, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Taylor Swift Filmography error.
In Taylor's Filmography section it states that she potrays herself in the flim, yet at the end of the Hannah Montana movie it credits her as; The lady in the barn. There was no actual mentioning of her name in the movie, and it was only a assumption that she played herself, but still please fix this. Sheridanjoy (talk) 11:11, 22 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sheridanjoy (talk • contribs) 11:04, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Length of 2008-2009 section
We really need to cut it down, because there's too much info, such as the mentions of all her awards. She does have an award section for a reason, you know. 75.72.105.60 (talk) 04:28, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

"Breathless"
Taylor Swift sang a song titled "Breathless" on the newly released Hope for Haiti album. This information should be added. tigers go rawr. *rawr* January 24th, 2010 at 18:17 (UTC)]