Talk:TeamViewer/Archive 1

Teamviewer 10 is out
It's not in the table yet. I'd add it but I don't have time right now to sift through their changelog to remove the marketing chaff from the actual features. 193.162.26.10 (talk) 13:16, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Clean up
I'd like to mention that the content of this article is a) not verified at all b) leading to wrong impressions c) sounds like advertisement —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daskleinedickechristian (talk • contribs) 19:57, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The article changed now, has more citation and has to be reviewed. If you think it might lead to wrong impressions or sounds like an add then please tell what exactly makes you feel like this and help to make it neutral. Altalavista (talk) 08:28, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Usage on Linux
Should we mention that TeamViewer works also on recent versions of Wine on Linux (I dont know about OpenSolaris)? As in the comparison of remote desktop software it is marked as not working on Linux, but it does so without any changes --220.142.129.241 (talk) 13:58, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * To put it in this article you need a source saying it works on linux (I don't think a particularly high quality one is needed). As to fixing the other article, make a comment on that talk page. Cheers, Verbal   chat  15:38, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think its ok. I also strongly feel wikipedia SHOULD have entries about software. As long as they are factual, and objective (and not just stupid adds). Its a valuable resource. Pity so many have been deleted in the past. --IceHunter (talk) 00:53, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * When they come off as advertising like this one does I can see them being deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by randomguy70.75.70.168 (talk) 21:54, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * There is already a source on linux usage as one of the sources is the Teamviewer website. Currently there is a version that runs on linux natively.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.138.26.242 (talk) 04:39, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, TeamViewer for Linux does use Wine. You can see that shortly when it's starting (the first time at least). I'm sure you'll find plenty of evidence in the executable. Just to let you know. Since it'd be original research, it cannot be added to the article. --213.61.145.130 (talk) 10:52, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

This REEKS of "press release" POV!
It reeks, stinks, and smells!

All you people who are trying to make it better in some "sincere" wikipedia way are wasting your time and are being "enablers" for the marketers who obviously posted this crap. You are helping them get away with it. Fools.

Delete the article and send them a message. Reinstate NEUTRAL facts as a part of another article about "Remote Control Software" or something like that. It is UNENCYCLOPEDIC for companies to have (and more or less control) an article about their software regardless of how purportedly important it is. It's not important by the way, software like this comes and goes.

108.7.8.161 (talk) 16:14, 3 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Have you ever used the software yourself? TeamViewer is unique due to how the protocol and client <-> server architect was coded. Unlike VNC, RDP and all other major remote support applications/protocols - TeamViewer doesn't rely on (or even expose) IP addresses. That's a major benefit for some people. Another unique feature is that for users behind NAT, ports don't have to be forwarded. Connections are technically outbound, not inbound - so firewalls and routers become a non-issue.


 * Before you attempt it: I am in no way affiliated with the developers or the company itself. I'm someone who's worked in the field for over 15 years, and can honestly say that this software is extremely unique and innovative, which does make it notable. --Dontgooglemedude (talk) 21:38, 19 July 2010 (UTC)


 * The article says nothing at all about the way in which this software is "extremely unique and innovative". If there are publicly available sources documenting this, then please cite them in the article. Otherwise I do not understand the justification for what is essentially an advertisement --192.118.32.80 (talk) 14:24, 1 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Just funny how some people are blowing out of proportion. Fact is, that this Remote Software *IS* in fact *VERY* capable, compared to many others out there. I too have been using it for several years now across several clients. The fact that they finally support Android-OS is a major plus in my (now happy) eyes. In addition, if they're as "bad" as some folks make them out to be, i doubt they would have global-big-name clients as references (see their reference page), such as United Nations Organisation, or the Red Cross. I deem them so far as rather very secure compared to others. More details here about their security protocol http://www.teamviewer.com/images/pdf/TeamViewer_SecurityStatement.pdf Archangel Michael (talk) 17:31, 25 November 2010 (UTC)


 * My twopence worth as well. The article needs to look like an article, not an advertisement, but I can't agree with talk of deletion. This article has been useful to me, and unless Wikipedia is going to delete articles on the Ford Cortina or Fender Stratocaster just because they're someone's product, there's a clear argument for it remaining. I make no comment on whether the software is any good or not as that's irrelevant, and is the sort of detail that will come out of our subsequent discussions and edits. InelegantSolution (talk) 11:20, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Open source hostory
Up until version 2.X TeamViewer was based on VNC and an open source product. They developed a proprietary component, DynGate, to allow VNC/TeamViewer to operate behind firewalls. Starting with version 3 they abandoned the VNC code and have a proprietary product that has the DynGate functions built in. FWIW, the software download directory is still called DynGate - http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/dyngate.aspx

The source code for TeamViewer 2.43b Build: 749 is available at http://download.teamviewer.com/download/TeamViewer_Source.zip

I wrote the above without sources. I found one source that supports some of what I wrote which is a http://openpr(.)com/news/30821/Remote-support-in-the-third-generation.html 10-Oct-2007]press release about the version 3 release. It mentions DynGate and that it's now integrated. Unfortunately, I can't find a reliable source for the open source roots. While the source code for 2.43b is on the TeamViewer web site there's no link to it on the site nor mention that the product was initially based on VNC. Thus I'm post the data here and hopefully someone will track down a reliable source. --Marc Kupper&#124;talk 05:23, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Teamviewer runs daemon as root
The text suggests that teamviewer only needs admin permissions to be installed, but that is not true. At least on linux, with the latest version, teamviewer runs teamviewerd as root (which poses a very serious potential security problem).

I think this should be mended in the text, so as to make it clear that it does run as root, only the client side runs with the user's UID. --88.1.213.95 (talk) 18:33, 12 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Totally agreed. Any chances for providing a reference describing this permissions requirement on the server side? &mdash; Dsimic (talk) 18:59, 12 January 2014 (UTC)


 * The text doesn't say that. It says you need administrative access for installing. On Windows, the service runs with system permissions — like most services —which is just as powerful as root on Unix systems. --213.61.145.130 (talk) 11:02, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

The article does not say how Teamviewer works
It looks like that its not a peer-to-peer situation, but that every communication runs via a server owned by the Teamviewer company, or at least needs this to connect with the other side. VNC on the other hand is a pure peer-to-peer communication. This should be clearly spelled out in the article and explained in detail. --84.176.181.102 (talk)


 * TeamViewer has a LAN only mode which doesn't even require access to the internet, suggesting this isn't the case. In the past I've read on their site FAQ that they establish a TCP or UDP peer-to-peer connection if possible, and if not, fall back on routing all traffic through their servers.  I'd agree clarifying this belongs in the article.  207.235.66.110 (talk) 18:02, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Hacks
Hi

On 11 February 2017, a contentious edit by 97.101.94.171 was made to this article. This edit added a large portion about users reporting breaches through TeamViewer, but contained vandalism (changing "cloud" to "butt") and synthesis of published material, an outright unreliable source (the infamous The Register) and a potentially unreliable source (Reddit). It was highly biased.

In my revert, I promised salvaging what I can, but since then, I observed that the §Fraudulent uses section already covers this issue. So, no need for salving.

Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 07:02, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Major cleanup; cutting back to only that which is from Reliable Sources
This article has become a page for the subject rather than about it. So I'm going to remove everything that is just providing the company a platform to just make another "About Us!" page.

Note that when this article was proposed for deletion in 2009, editors pointed out that it has received Notable media coverage. However, nobody on this article has bothered to actually apply it, choosing instead to just cite the company itself. If you want the article expanded, take a look at Articles for deletion/TeamViewer, use those source, find more like them, and you'll be looking good. MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:00, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

BDSM?
Is the mention about "the widespread use of TeamViewer in the BDSM scene" really necessary? It's akin to saying that Sony Vegas is particularly praised in the midget porn and squat cobbler communities – even if it were proven to be true, it would be totally irrelevant in a supposedly encyclopedic article about a general purpose software primarily used for serious tasks, unless there's an event related to that "widespread use" significant enough to be reported in the news for the non-BDSM scene, which as of yet comprises the overwhelming majority of the world population. Besides, the source provided for that statement is described as "infamous" in a comment above by "Codename Lisa".--Abolibibelot (talk) 14:12, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Independent of whether a BDSM mention should be included or not, is it really appropriate to label it as Abuse akin to hacking and scams? —f3ndot (TALK) (EMAIL) (PGP) 15:48, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

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