Talk:Team Sonic Racing

Draft
User:Sergecross73/Sonic Kart

FYI, I've written a well-sourced draft on third party source's documentation of the title over the last few months. I'm just waiting for the game to be officially announced at this point. When it is, please contact me and/or move it into the article space rather than starting a new one from scratch. Thanks! Sergecross73  msg me  14:40, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Its now official, so I've made the move. Sergecross73   msg me  15:38, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Kart racing explanation
I'm trying to keep this page up to date and have been looking for interviews to beef up the development section. I came across this this Siliconera article, in which Aaron Webber provides an explanation for why Sonic's riding in a car instead of just running. I'm not sure if this should be in the article so I'm seeking comments here. Thoughts? JOE BRO  64  12:40, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Haha, I have seen that question being asked a lot in previews/reviews for the various vehicle-based Sonic racing games. I'm not opposed to adding a sentence adding that sentiment in the development section or something. Sergecross73   msg me  12:51, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Tee Lopes
Are you (or have you) going to make a draft/article for Tee Lopes? You argued in November that a redlink for him should stay in the article, citing WP:REDLINK. However, that guideline also states that it should only really be done "to indicate that a page will be created soon or that an article should be created for the topic because the subject is notable and verifiable." As it has been a few months without an article being created, as well as a few denied draft submissions for people who have tried, it seems like he would fail both of these points. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 21:35, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, while a lot of this comes down to editing philosophy, rejected drafts is generally considered a pretty convincing reason to unlink. Sergecross73   msg me  21:57, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I still think it's worth redlinking him. As I explained in my edit summary in November, the only reason the drafts were rejected was because they were created by an editor who had a COI with Lopes and didn't understand Wiki policies. I've seen a number of RSs cover Lopes (here are two from just a quick Google search: [www.originalsoundversion.com/tag/tee-lopes/], ). The redlink policy doesn't say anything about removing redlinks if it's been a few months without an article (and the quote you put here basically says the opposite). I'd argue to keep it per WP:THEREISNODEADLINE. At the very least we could turn it into a redirect with possibilities to Sonic Mania. JOE BRO  64  22:27, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * While "soon" is subjective, if there has been no effort at all to create the article in months, I just don't see why it should remain linked. He does seems to have minor coverage by a few places, but I'm not sure if that is enough to have an entire article written about him. The COI editor's draft could have been salvaged if somebody had found those same sources before closing the draft, but that didn't happen. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 22:39, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Just an FYI but I created a redirect a few minutes ago JOE BRO  64  22:40, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * That works. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 22:42, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Describing the reception
There's been a bit of back and forth on this lately, so I figured I'd start a discussion.

Three different statements have been added to the article.


 * 1) TSR received positive reviews.
 * 2) TSR received mixed to positive reviews.
 * 3) TSR received mixed reviews.


 * Option #1 is not acceptable because it violates Wikipedia's policy of no original research. We need a source that verifies this. We, as editors, cannot make this claim/judgement on our own observations.
 * Option #2 is not acceptable per WP:VG/MIXED. Its an awkward phrase not generally used in writing.
 * Option #3 is the best choice because it is verified by Metacritic's aggregate summary of ""mixed or average reviews" per https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/team-sonic-racing

Feel free to discuss, but this is all pretty standard interpretation of policy and guidelines. Sergecross73  msg me  13:13, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 * This pretty much sums up what I think. Critics are saying it's decent but nothing stellar, which is what Metacritic classifies as "mixed". I've also noticed some IPs trying to add that users gave it positive reviews, which... well, that being removed should be self-explanatory. JOE BRO  64  19:06, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Explanation grammers
Just a quick question, LucasR muteacc, why doesn’t that term follow proper grammer? And how is it uncited. Its not uncited. It's not even that bad of a term. It was just fine the way it was. SuperSuperSonic208 (talk) 21:52, 30 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I wasn't the one who reverted you, but I probably would have if Lucas hadn't, for other reasons. I assume we are talking about this revert. I don't really think this comparison makes much sense. All three of the games featured relatively similar reception. The other ones were pretty low on the side of positive, while this one was pretty high on the side of mixed. I don't think your vague generalization helped. Sergecross73   msg me  22:21, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Makes obvious sense. SuperSuperSonic208 (talk) 00:31, 1 July 2024 (UTC)