Talk:Tear the World Down

Like a Prayer
Dude, their Like A Prayer cover will NOT be on the album and that comes straight from Marty. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.92.199.12 (talk) 17:58, April 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * billboard has recently changed their track listing to include the song. Also allmusic has also released a tracklist including "Like a Prayer".  Unfortunately, Marty's interview cannot be used as a source on wikipedia because he is not a third party source.  It's reported as included by reputable websites so far, so until a third party reliable source is found, the song should remain listed. ~ [  Scott M. Howard  ]:[  Talk  ] ~ 23:07, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

the advanced copy of the album has 12 tracks and LAP is on it so i dunno what to think anymore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.95.218.67 (talk) 21:32, April 7, 2010

Tear The World Down Leaked on youtube
So the album leaked on YouTube like 3 days ago I think. I searched it on youtube and the album songs were there but they were deleted. Should this be included in this article? I mean The Open Door album of Evanescence article mentions the album being leaked, so should we put it here as well? ScottMHoward, what do you think? You're the one who is probably the one who watches this article the most so maybe you can help me out?

I was thinking about adding this:

Reply back please as soon as possible. --Homezfoo (talk) 02:39, 1 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Being that it's so close to the release date, I don't think it's very relevant. The Open Door was available on Limewire MONTHS before the album was set for release, so I'm thinking that's why it was mentioned there (though I did not look at that article to see what IS mentioned).  As far as amazon goes, the preview tracks is a feature of all albums so I don't think it holds any special notability here.  If WAtF makes some kind of statement regarding the youtube leak, we can feature it here (preferrably AFTER the album release, since adding it here will possibly affect sales--or something).  But wait for a reliable source, or it might be considered Original Research. ;D ~ [  Scott M. Howard  ]:[  Talk  ] ~ 17:43, 1 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay. Do you know if Evanescence made some kind of statement about The Open Door being leaked though? Or some other reliable source? --Homezfoo (talk) 07:02, 2 May 2010 (UTC)


 * There are two sources on the Open Door article when it comes to the album being leaked, so using that as an example, we should wait for a reliable source for this article as well. I consider it "gossip".  It's less than 10 days away from the release date, so most retailers have access to the album, it's a no brainer that SOMEONE is going to leak it.  Until it becomes notable information, it shouldn't be included. ~ [  Scott M. Howard  ]:[  Talk  ] ~ 12:58, 2 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Its not gossip though, some of the songs off the album are still up on YouTube. Just checked. And oh okay, I see. --Homezfoo (talk) 14:21, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

THE ALBUM WAS LEAKED ON APRIL 26 DO NOT DELETE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.77.114.184 (talk) 10:41, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Complete Album Leaked on P2P Sites
The whole album's been leaked on torrent and some direct-download sites a few hours ago according to Releaselog. I'm not sure if we're allowed to post links to torrent sites as a reference!! should this be mentioned in the main article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmad halawani (talk • contribs) 12:34, 8 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Read the discussions above^. Also, leaks shouldn't be mentioned at all, unless they directly cause a change of the release date or a response from the band or something similar. Otherwise it's irrelevant, plus promotes illegal downloads. ×××BrightBlackHeaven(talk)××× 14:54, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

B-sides
So what exactly is the "B-sides" section of the tracklist all about? I was under the impression that was another word for "bonus tracks", but neither of those tracks appear to be on the album. I had a feeling "Like a Prayer" might have been, but the only reference to "Samhain" is just a song they perform(ed?) in concert. If these are simply tracks that were recorded, but not included on the album, shouldn't they merely be mentioned in a paragraph somewhere and not on the actual track listing? Or did I just get a CD (from Best Buy) that doesn't have them? lol ~ [ Scott M. Howard  ]:[  Talk  ] ~ 15:36, 11 May 2010 (UTC)


 * After some investigation (and another contributor's edit), it appears that "Samhain" is available as a download at Best Buy's Napster website. Is this reliable enough (considering 2 other tracks are missing from the tracklist) to be placed here?  The album itself does not contain the track, but it's made available as an additional download.  hmm.  ~ [  Scott M. Howard  ]:[  Talk  ] ~ 02:18, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


 * u can purchase samhain on www.napster.com . like a prayer will be released another way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.77.114.184 (talk) 10:17, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Reviews
So what kind of reviews are allowed? Like, which ones are allowed to put from. From only billboard, etc? --Homezfoo (talk) 11:16, 15 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, hey. Didn't see this here.  There's actually an article dedicated to review sites: WP:ALBUM/REVSIT.  It has a list of all the "professional ratings" sources as well as proper formats for including into an article. ~ [  Scott M. Howard  ]:[  Talk  ] ~ 12:31, 17 May 2010 (UTC)


 * aaaaaaaah I see! Now I know! Thanks!! :D --Homezfoo (talk) 23:45, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Release Dates
Tear The World Down was released in the UK on iTunes on May 10th. I bought it then - that's why I changed it. ^^ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.141.70.222 (talk) 17:13, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

We are the fallen
we are the fallen is first album does not sound anything like nu metal it more pop metal 2A00:23C5:4523:DD01:B036:F0C2:13A9:1833 (talk) 23:20, 1 April 2023 (UTC)