Talk:Tech N9ne/Archive 1

"F.T.I"
Would anyone mind working on putting some information up about the FTI campaign? I think it's notable, as it's a a fairly prominent case of file-sharing boosting album sales, as well as the protests staged over the Kazaa ruling.

Much like the whole "Tec-9/Technique Number N9ne" thing, when I find some time I'll try and get some information on this added in using the T9X DVD and a couple articles as sources. Someone else is free too if I don't get to it before them. I agree, this was a significant event, so it should be covered at least to some extent. Mizery Made 15:38, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Killer
I can't find any source for the fact, that there is an album called Killer to be released in 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.171.100.180 (talk) 22:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)


 * There, just added a source for you. Mizery Made 00:15, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.171.91.4 (talk) 10:54, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

i have even heard tech n9ne him self say that he is working on a new album called "killer" and it should be coming out in march 08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.142.137.140 (talk) 04:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

What happened to what was here?
What happened to what was here? It used to talk about how his uncle got him into rap and his christian background.The Clydelishes Clyde 02:42, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well Honestly, the album is selling in stores right now so i guess it must be true, right?--Apawk (talk) 16:22, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Misconception
This article states that Tech N9ne stands for the gun, this is not true. As Tech says in many of his albums it stands for Technique Number 9, which he claims to be his rapping style. They need to change this. Tech dominates all.

So you're going to go ahead and believe something as ignorant as that? Honestly, it's like these stoner girls I know who say "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is not about drugs, it's about a drawing his kid drew and blah blah blah." You're just going to assume that he coincidentally came up with 8 rapping styles and wasnt happy til the ninth one, and decided to name it, also very coincidentally, the same name as a gun? Spare me. Vicious203 14:50, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

The first comment is right, tech explained that a thousand times. Furthermore he doesnt talk about weapons in his songs, so i do believe him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.171.100.180 (talk) 22:43, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Its his favorite number as well, stating that a cat has 9 lives, 9 months of pregnancy etc. Why would he name himself after a gun, that doesnt even make sense, and is a totally ignorant statement. The gun is TEC-9, not a tech n9ne, anyway.

Not true about Tech not having weapons references. They're rarer than most rappers, but for example, look at "Riotmaker" off of Everready. He explains that it's "Not like I said get a pistol and use it" and then in the next verse references a marine acquaintance that was killed by missile fire. Also off Everready is the "My World" intro, 'We tote big guns instead of a knife' and 'You got a job, I ain't got one, you got a wad, I got a shotgun'. 64.122.17.52 11:36, 28 October 2007 (UTC)Tino

I'm nearly positive it's Tech N9NE, not Tech N9ne. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hotsauscegorgonzolaeeyore (talk • contribs) 01:34, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Either way, it's common knowledge that techs name stands for technique number 9, he's explained it in video blogs and magazines and on stage numerous times. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.90.72.168 (talk) 22:14, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

On many sites that i have been to is does quote that tech n9ne did state that his name stands for technique number 9

On the Everready album's song "No Can Do" he says: "It's the one/With the name of a gun/Look at me momma what I've become". While he may describe it as Technique Nine, he's also quite aware that it's a reference to the gun. 71.243.88.176 15:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

If you have seen the T9X DVD then you would know where the name originates. When he rapped for Black Walt, Walt said he rapped like a gun, thus they went to Walt's house, flipped through a gun mag, on the very last page was an ad for a Tec-9, that's when they said, "That's it!" Tech goes on to explain that while that's where the initial idea came from, he wanted it to be different and thus spelt it "Tech" as in "Technique" & "N9ne" citing 9 as the number of completion, the whole nine yards, etc. One of these days when I get time I'll put the DVD in and get quotes & Time Codes for this part to add all this in and source it. Unless someone else has the DVD and wants to. Mizery Made 15:36, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

heathead
This article still needs to be rewritten. Alot of it is cut-and-pasted from www.rockkansas.com. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heathead (talk • contribs) 14:08, February 11, 2006

Rewrite it then! Rockkansas.com isn't complaining. 09:02, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

gun name
No reference to the gun after which he takes his name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.95.19.42 (talk • contribs) 15:44, March 24, 2006

His name aint the gun its the sex position

No, watch the Tech N9ne Experience DVD and he says, that his name was derived from the gun, because he raps fast as a "motherF**ker" and the gun shoots fast as a "motherF**ker" and that his how he got his name, get your facts right before speaking!

also ina lyric he states "the one with the name of a gun". <-- Which song? = No Can Do (everready album)

"Listen to the villian wit a gun associated tongue" in Absolute Power. See above discussions though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.173.189.144 (talk) 23:19, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Tech clearly states in Everready's "No Can Do" That he is 'The one with the name of a gun' in the very first verse.64.122.17.52 11:41, 28 October 2007 (UTC)Tino

Just because he is aware there is a gun named that doesn't mean it's how he came up with the name, it only means he's utilizing similarities as tools for his rhymes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.90.72.168 (talk) 22:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

On many sites that i have been to it quotes that tech n9ne did state that his name stands for technique number 9 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.142.137.140 (talk) 04:11, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

What happened?
All the information is gone, this page looks bare compared to months ago, this has gone WAY too far. And people wonder why I hate Wikipedia, too many standards and retards. WACK!

Mizery Made 05:07, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree, narrow-minded nerds get involved, wanting to condescend and pretend to have a better idea, but they don't add improvements, all they do is strip the entry of information, add a bunch of "citation neededs," and eliminate information which the average reader wants to see. If they think citations are needed, let them add the information! Otherwise, they should STFU, and quite vandalizing entry after entry. 07:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

yeah man wtf, I can't find the interview I read of his awhile back where he stated where his named came from.

tech is the begining of techneque the gun is spelled tec or tek. 9 is the number of complete look it up on you tube hes says it...its under tech n9ne intervew. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.150.188.149 (talk) 02:00, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

IT DID NOT COME FROM THE GUN, that's partially why.

it came from 9 being the ultimate number, Technique Number 9; 3+6=9, 360 is a complete revolution, which sum's up his rapping style because he has "rapped with the illest mutha fuckas the game has ever seen, from Tupac to Eminem, to Bone, all them niggas". a cat has 9 lives. 3x3=9, 339, 3+3+9=15, age when he started doing performances. and a bunch more —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.248.76.215 (talk) 19:22, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

^That is not true, he was trying to find a rapper alias and a local rapper he went to school with was going through a magazine and the last page had a tech nine one it and since Tech rapped so fast he suggested he take up the name... it was on the dvd T9X. I think the Ultimate 9 number thing came later.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.74.112.232 (talk) 03:56, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

actually i think his name is supposed to have a double meaning, referencing the TEC-9 as well as meaning technique 9. 202.124.228.22 (talk) 19:13, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Tech N9ne and the Article
You all have to keep in mind that this isn't a place to promote Tech N9ne, or his music. It is here to provide facts and be a biographical source for him and his music. It also must be constructive and reasonable as well as appropriate. Yes I'm a Tech N9ne fan, but that doesn't mean I will advertise him or his music through an ENCYCLOPEDIA. --KCMODevin 01:56, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Tech N9ne is hard as F**ck stop deleting his page

Blood?
He says in alot of his raps that he's down with the red rags (Possibly Blood affiliation) and this would also explain the red hair and clothing, so, any sources?

well latley at his live concerts he wears more face paint and is now earing black scrubs with a clean shaven head red could just be a favorite color or a gimmick that went along with absolute power but now that hes on his everready "era" if you will hes using alot of black and grays (ive seen hime 4 times this year thats my source)

In an interview with JUICE (biggest european magazine for hip hop culture, from germany), he says that black and red are his favourite colors, and in a video interview he explains that he only cut off his hair cuz it was falling out(due to the color).

Another, more substantiated theory claims that the red rags are due to his Juggalo connections. Tech refers to himself and those around him as 'Killa Clowns', makes references to groupies as 'Juggalettes', and also performs with various Psychopathic Records artists such as Twiztid and Boondox. Tech shares a fan base with such groups as Psychopathic Records' Insane Clown Posse (Fans are called Juggalos/lettes and wear red as a common colour of identifying reference) and Suburban Noize Records' Kottonmouth Kings. This is likely because many of the demographics of these bands are in the same range as each other.64.122.17.52 11:49, 28 October 2007 (UTC)Tino

In another interview he also said that he GREW up in a blood neighbourhood, but never was one —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.35.1.57 (talk) 09:54, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Tech is a blood but now hes gettin older and more mature and not so worried about B's and C's cuz now he is tryin to broadin his music, by doin songs with T- nutty and brotha lynch hung (both well known crips). in an interview on the dvd state 2 state- T-nutty, hes asked if him and tnutty would ever do a song together after answering hell yeah, hes then asked "b's and c's on the same track? and tech responds saying "fo sho its all love baby" plus i heard tech talk about his blood ni**as in concert so ur all retarded. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.137.108.175 (talk) 04:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

♠Aaron Yates is not a Blood he very much dislikes gangs and their members... 2 his name was derrived from the gun and his 9th flowing style.. 3 the red rags/flags do refer to the ones juggalos and juggalettes wear at his and other Psychopathic Records performers events... So get off the mans nuts... My source is him.. Fire and Ice 08 Bitches and TECH N9NE - "KILLER" [ IN STORES 7/01/08 ] Rep ur town.... CmW Ps- If you dont know what your talking about, dont even talk because you look stupid when you do...♠

Tech sure reps blood in this song so do not believe everything http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vat4tt1ljzs key to this - "Soo Woo Woo" is a blood call in new york ALSO, 57th st. RDV = bloods in KCMO —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.231.119.112 (talk) 00:50, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Your kidding me. Woo Woo is also a Phycopathic thing. Insane Clown Posse. Not Bloods. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.172.80.210 (talk) 11:13, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

And that would be all well and nice if he went woo woo, he we soo woo woo, which is a very well known blood call. kutt calhoun and snug brim are also very well known bloods. get your facts straight. and he's said ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS, that he is not a juggalo. I can show you at least 10 interviews where he clears that up. 24.63.173.161 (talk) 12:03, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

In "Imma Tell" he says Imma rep the B and never let the C get the best of me. 74.173.84.148 (talk) 19:03, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

To the fuccers who said that i was wrong while back bout him saying sup woop woop FUCC ICP YOU JOKES, he said suh woop so stfu hoes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.119.46.88 (talk) 03:32, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Er, hate to break it to you all, but yes. Tech N9ne is a blood. There are multiple videos of him doing the blood walk as well as throwing up Bs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8QDnz7cTv0 Just for one. 71.105.120.214 (talk) 07:21, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

HE IS NOT A GROUP!
It is a guy, so I am going to take the tag off the bottom.

You're right, but in live concerts he always performs with Kutt Calhoun and Big Krizz Kaliko.

Lots of solo rappers perform with people, that doesn't make any of them a group. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.90.72.168 (talk) 22:18, 2 November 2007 (UTC)  I agree, he's not in a group other than Kabosh, he just raps with Krizz and Kutt, that's it.2BARQUACK.COM (talk) 17:11, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Um...he's in the Regime with Yukmouth. He was one of the original members when it was started in 1997. Minnesota cold (talk) 23:52, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

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Referring to him being in a group...on the album Sickology 101 he does a song with Kutt and Kali (Mackzilla also makes an appearance but it is hard to tell how involved he is with the group) and they refer to themselves as the 816 boys (816 being the area code for Kansas City). This is found on the song Areolas and also on the skit Grammys. How permanent/relevant this group is has yet to be determined (by me at least) but I think you would have to as Tech to find out for sure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.13.97.147 (talk) 22:58, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

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Seems rather uninformative
The introduction doesn't seem very encyclopedic. To me, it sounds rather similar to something a 6th grader would write for a school newspaper. This part especially:

"In 1985, Aaron "Tech N9ne" Yates found his calling. On a dare, he picked up a pen and wrote a rhyme. The next day he went to school and performed that rhyme. His life has never been the same. In the 17 years since that day, this motor-mouthed rapper has performed sold out shows from L.A. to New York."

I don't think it's very informative, nor does it cite its sources. Consider revising. Vicious203 14:45, 26 June 2007 (UTC)


 * i agree... it also has a fan-site presence about it... almost feels like exaggerations or superficial claims at some parts, and alot of it feels biased (ex: "most prominent MC in his hometown of Kansas City")... i tagged it, rather than theying to fix it up because i don't know much about the artist (tech n9ne is one of only 2 rappers i like). --AN, 19:20, 7.Oct.2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.11.189.73 (talk) 23:22, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Personal Life?
Why is there zero information on his personal life? kids, wife etc? MrM 01:11, 4 August 2007 (UTC)


 * kind of a little to personal, nobody knows much other than hes got 3 kids and hes divorcedWiggl3sLimited 17:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Caribou Lou
It is stated in the Music Video section that there is a video for Caribou Lou, or one that is not released yet. Can we please have a citation as to where this video is or or an article that states that production on such a video has started? If no citation is cited, I'm requesting that this information be destroyed as it is uninformative and misleading to the article as a whole. INSBDominator 21:19, 3 October 2007 (UTC)INSBDominator

Page Revision
I did a quick revision of the start of the page to reflect a more objective viewpoint of the artist. I tried to reword the first paragraph to sound less blindly congratulatory, and added a line to the end of it which was my best attempt to say (without citations) that he's "underground but famous". I also tweaked the beginning of the "Career" section and removed the comment about having five albums selling over 550,000 copies as I couldn't make it sound like anything that was relevant enough to quote. Plus, I couldn't look up info on it to back it up. 71.243.88.176 15:42, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

"... and removed the comment about having five albums selling over 550,000 copies... Plus, I couldn't look up info on it to back it up." There is information backing that up already present in the article. Using only the sourced figures in the Discography, you get a total of 585,511 copies sold. Those figures come from only 5 albums. (Anghellic, Absolute Power, Vintage Tech, Everready & Misery Loves Kompany) Mizery Made 15:53, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

My main point, if you'll notice, was that it wasn't worth putting in that information. Artists aren't referenced by how many albums their entire discography has sold. I realize that it's a reflection on his work outside of the mainstream continuing to sell, but it's not objective and doesn't match up with other pages on Wikipedia. If it were mentioned in a seperate heading explaining his uniqueness from most other artists then it might make more sense. Otherwise it's bragging, or "peacocking" as Wikipedia is claiming.PseudoSherlock (talk) 17:16, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Sobman paragraph
I've remove this material for a couple of reasons. The footage used to put together this video comes from an earlier interview done by the same guy. Nothing new is said, it's just clips of that prior interview that refer to Sobman. In cutting the video like this, it leads to that final statement being taken out of context. When saying he wouldn't (actually they wouldn't) be recording anymore music, it was in regards to the Kabosh project. He was stating that until they got the band put together, they wouldn't be doing any recording for the project, seeing as they wouldn't have the full band yet. Also, I fail to see how this is of any real importance.Mizery Made (talk) 07:22, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Not only that, a wiki article on me really aint necessary —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.17.208.91 (talk) 20:07, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Neutrality Dispute
I would like to see what "peacock terms" are used in this article to cause a dispute in it's neutrality. I don't see anywhere in the article information that boasts about the achievements of the person the article is based upon that isn't cited. In no way in this article is this person referred to as a great person or a better person than anyone. This article only shows this person's achievements that actually make this article worthy of mention. Unless someone can find these "peacock terms" and present them, I'm asking for this "neutrality dispute" to end, along with the mention of "peacock terms" as it is a taint to the article as a whole. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.9.38.128 (talk) 20:50, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

there needs to be more Info.
It seems like everybody I meet know about Tech. But this article doesnt have much on him. Kinda a shame, Tech is my favorite rapper/musician. Here are a couple of Idea's somebody could add:

1.) him having 3 kids, and being divorced 2.) He almost always sells out at concerts. 3.) he goes on tour most of the year. As soon as he gets back, it seems like hes gone again in acouple of weeks. 4.) his current, or previously drug use 5.)list some rappers that he's rapped with, to give an idea how diverse his music is. "I'm that rap nigga that you heard with Tupac, Sole, Lynch & Bo, Wake up show with King Tech and Sway, Yukmouth, Thicker Than Water, Gang Related, Eminem, Roger Trout, Mc Ren, nigga Spice One and Nem."-Keep on Keepin on 6.) list some songs that show diversity. from The Rain/Welcome back/Party Hard to Drill Team to Slacker. 7.) list who he USUALLY raps or tours with. Psycopatchic, and strange music comes to mind. 8.)list some stuff from his interviews.

whatever, just add on anything to this article!


 * I think your #1 should be added. #7 could be added as well, and possibly the first half of #5 concerning who he has worked with in the past. The rest is either opinion (#6), too hard to cite (#2, #3), or too immature (#4). Minnesota cold (talk) 00:15, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


 * A list of a few artists he has collaborated with has been added in several times and it usually ends up a disorganized list because everyone has their own opinion on who should be listed, and eventually it's just removed. You could even look at the 'Associated Acts' list as an example. Kaliko & Kutt are justified I feel, because they're always on tour with him and performing in his set and they are frequent collaborations. However, ICP & Twiztid are actually a stretch, because there may be three collaborations or so a piece, and maybe a tour. See, it's all dependant on people's opinion. If it were up to me, only The Regime, 57RDVs, Krizz, Kaliko & Kabosh would be left in that section. I agree though, that the article could provide more/better information and in a better format. It's been pieced together over the years and looks rather bad. I started a complete re-write like two years ago, but never even made it half-way through before I gave up. Mizery Made ( talk  ·  contribs ) 00:26, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Sickology 101
If anyone has any news on this upcoming release. Fill free to add with reliable sources. --Apawk (talk) 16:21, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

When you google the title, it goes to some person's Myspace that has the same title, I'm wondering if someone jsut messed up Wikipedia. I been to 3 Tech Shows this year and haven't heard him mention this new title at all...2BARQUACK.COM (talk) 17:05, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Tech shows are just that, shows. They're just for money. His PR dude recently "announced" it though. On siccness.net/vb Wiggl3sLimited (talk) 02:08, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Homosexual Lyrics
Last time I checked this page, there was a paragraph about homosexual content in tech's lyrics. Had citations and everything, appeared to be legit stuff. How come it got deleted? I checked the citations and they were what they claimed to be. I didn't know folks could delete stuff just because they don't like it. After reviewing the citations in that paragraph, and listening to a couple of songs again, he does appear to rap about cock an awful lot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eper1709 (talk • contribs) 18:48, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * First of all, you state this as if you read the additions of another individual, when you're the one which added them. Secondly, simply citing lyrics posted on various lyric sites doesn't provide substantial evidence to post something questioning someones sexuality. Especially since the lyrics on such sites are often user submitted and are not always accurate. Furthermore, the lyrics quoted on the page didn't even match the source which was cited. (Final note: The latter citation didn't contain lyrics to "Demons," rather, "Trauma.")

Mizery Made ( talk  ·  contribs ) 19:09, 28 January 2010 (UTC) How is citing his lyrics not "substantial evidence" of what's in his lyrics? just because you don't like it doesn't mean tech didn't say it.

Discrepancy
The article states "his musical career has spanned over 19 years", but the info box says he's been active since 1985. I don't know which is correct so I'm not going to change anything. 192.234.13.47 (talk) 14:19, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe the change to the reference to his years active in the lead is a recent on. Prior, it's number of years reflected the same information that is in the infobox. Not entirely sure what either should be set at however. The artist has stated several times that he wrote his first rhyme in 1985, and at one point he was tossing around "Since 1985" as a possible album title during interviews. That said, his first deal wasn't until 1993, and there's little to no material that has surfaced from him prior (other than one track which has been claimed to be circa 1991). So, professionally, the earliest solid year is 1993, so... 1985 or 1993? *Shrugs* - Mizery Made  ( talk  ·  contribs ) 14:38, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

K.A.B.O.S.H.
Hey big tech fan here. Anyone know when or if tech is going to get the rap/rock group going (k.a.b.o.s.h)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.181.39.66 (talk) 15:42, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

New Album Information
A user has recently added a paragraph about a new album to the Career section. I have fixed some of the more glaring grammatical and style issues, but the main problem is that the whole thing is unsourced.

I've never heard of Tech N9ne before today, nor does this unsourced information seem particularly contentious so I'm leaving it as it is. My hope is that someone who knows this artist (and Wikipedia) can cite this paragraph, or delete it outright if it's inappropriate to leave this in unsourced. I'm also not sure what the last two sentences even mean, so maybe someone can clarify that too. I've left a message on the original editor's talk page about this. Dubious Irony  yell 10:55, 31 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, paragraph's now cited and cleaned up (thanks to Mizery Made and Juggalobrink.) Dubious Irony  yell 09:29, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Opinions
Why does it say under early life on the very last sentence that he is "The best rapper in the United States today." That's an opinion so people should keep there own personal opinion out of these articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IamSuperHuman1 (talk • contribs) 23:48, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Was Tech N9ne a blood?
I have heard from various people that Aaron was a blood. I feel that if it is true that it would be an important piece of information for his Wiki. I am just learning how to use Wikipedia and not just be idle with it. However I am not one to put stuff in that I cannot find a source for. So if there is someone out there that has more skills than me, I would think that this info would be a insightful addition. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.171.41.192 (talk) 06:38, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Added Celcius Back Up
Someone removed Tech N9ne's fourth album, Celcius, from the Discography section on this page. I added it back.

TECHn9cian (talk) 22:22, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It was removed because it is not a "studio album," and thus doesn't belong there. It's a compilation of work released by his previous label after his departure. Thus would be considered an "unofficial album." – Mizery Made  ( talk ·  contribs ) 00:21, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank we need to add a section called "Compilation Albums" to his discography included Celcius and his other compilation, Vintage Tech.

TECHn9cian (talk) 14:57, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * They're both covered on the actual Discography page. Generally when there is a dedicated page to a discography, then the "Discography" section of the main article only covers the "main" releases, which is usually just the "Studio albums" (not so much the EPs, Mixtapes, Compilations, etc.). – Mizery Made  ( talk ·  contribs ) 15:07, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Cairbou Lou went gold
His single "Caribou Lou" was certified Gold by the RIAA. I believe this is his first Gold Plaque of his career so this should be noted as a pretty big accomplishment. Amwisdx (talk) 20:03, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

old user,first time poster
Wow.........I think I'll go ahead and edit this since it's complete and utter horse poop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donman (talk • contribs) 22:49, January 28, 2006

Article is slipping
This article looks like it was written by a 6 year old. Someone needs to revert it back to when it was better, or clean it up.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiggl3sLimited (talk • contribs) 18:38, 7 June 2009‎ (UTC)

Move article
I have moved the contents of this article to Tech Nine as per Manual_of_Style/Trademarks, "Avoid using special characters that are not pronounced [&] are included purely for decoration." The use of the number 9 in place of the letter i is a stylization that Wikipedia does not reproduce - compare with Se7en or Sunn O))). Please do not revert this edit without explaining why Tech N9ne should be an exception to this guideline. Wetdogmeat (talk) 03:17, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Please discuss this issue at Talk:Tech_Nine. Thank you. Wetdogmeat (talk) 01:04, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: page will be moved, pending speedy deletion of redirect. jcc (tea and biscuits) 10:05, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Tech N9ne → Tech Nine – To be moved as per MOS:TM, "Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules, even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official," as long as this is a style already in use, rather than inventing a new one"; "Avoid using special characters that are not pronounced, are included purely for decoration Wetdogmeat (talk) 01:53, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

'''I have copied the below contributions from Talk:Tech_Nine and blanked that section to avoid redundancy

The contents of this article were moved from Tech N9ne as per Manual_of_Style/Trademarks, "Avoid using special characters that are not pronounced [&] are included purely for decoration." The use of the number '9' in place of the letter 'i' is a stylization that Wikipedia does not reproduce - compare with Se7en or Sunn O))). Please do not revert this edit without explaining why Tech N9ne should be an exception to this guideline. Wetdogmeat (talk) 01:01, 5 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Just reviewing the title policy. It seems that Tech N9ne is an appropriate title, because the manual of style only prohibits special characters such as ♥,♣,♠, or ♦ in article titles. The character 9 is not a special symbol. The only concern is whether uninitiated readers will be able to pronounce the title Tech N9ne, but a pronunciation clarification such as the one used in Deadmau5 should suffice. Thanks! ― Ross coolguy  14:22, 5 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Can you cite the MOS on that? It gives ♥ as an example of what not to use, but I don't see any suggestion that "N9ne" is preferable to "Nine" - in fact it explicitly states that "Seven" should be used in place of "Se7en". It also states: "editors should choose among styles already in use (not invent new ones) and choose the style that most closely resembles standard English". According to Discogs, Tech Nine has been credited as all of the following: Tech N9ne, Tech 9ne, Tech Nine, Tech9, Tech9ne, Teck 9, Teck9, Tek 9, Tek N9NE & Tek9. "Tech Nine" is plainly the style that most closely resembles standard English. Wetdogmeat (talk) 17:29, 5 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Then why is Deadmau5 not Deadmouse? &#8213;Rosscoolguy 16:41, 6 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't know. It should probably be Deadmaus. But you can't make an appeal for an article to go against the guidelines by pointing to another article that goes against the guidelines, you have to appeal to the guidelines themselves. Wetdogmeat (talk) 23:33, 6 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I disagree. the article about the movie Se7en was titled Seven because it was more often spelled that way. See the infobox box office poster image. &#8213;Rosscoolguy</font color=#0101DF> 23:55, 8 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Actually the in-film (onscreen) title of the movie is SE7EN, and most DVD releases have styled it that way (also see IMDb and Metacritic). But even if it were the case that Se7en has mostly been known as Seven, the guideline states that "editors should choose among styles already in use (not invent new ones) and choose the style that most closely resembles standard English". In this case, that style is clearly Tech Nine, not Tech N9ne. Wetdogmeat (talk) 00:19, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

From the above, I would particularly stress that, according to Discogs, Tech Nine has been credited as all of the following: Tech N9ne, Tech 9ne, Tech Nine, Tech9, Tech9ne, Teck 9, Teck9, Tek 9, Tek N9NE & Tek9. "Tech Nine" is plainly the style that most closely resembles standard English. Although Tech9, Teck 9, Teck9, Tek 9, & Tek9 are all also closer to standard English than Tech N9ne. Wetdogmeat (talk) 02:02, 17 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Oppose Not a reliable source when it comes to stage names, he has only been credited at Tech N9ne on all albums and singles. Moving the page to Tech Nine would go against WP:COMMONNAME and would be inventing a new style as he is not referred to as Tech Nine.  STATic  message me!  02:21, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Are you talking about this release? In what sense is it 'unofficial'? It's not a bootleg, it's a professional release. Whether the artist had any input into it is irrelevant. We're choosing from among all the styles in use, not all the styles in use by the artist. The artist has no input into articles about himself either. And, no, he hasn't "only been credited at Tech N9ne on all albums and singles". On his own albums, yes, but he has been credited by that wide array of variations on other people's albums, and several of those variations are closer to standard English text formatting than the artist's preferred formatting (which is irrelevant). Tech Nine, Tech9, Teck 9, Teck9, Tek 9 & Tek9 are all preferable, according to Wiki guidelines, to Tech N9ne, which contains an unprounounced and purely decorative character, a 9 that stands in for an i. Also, as per Naming_conventions_(music) - "Do not replicate stylized typography in logos and album art, though a redirect may be appropriate (for example, KoЯn redirects to Korn)." Wetdogmeat (talk) 15:14, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * That is a bootleg and was not released by the artist, in all of his released Tech N9ne has been credited as Tech N9ne. If he was credited by those names on random bootlegs/mixtapes it does not have an argument here. If he has been named Tech Nine in multiple reliable sources I would like to see it. I looked myself and did not find any. Korn is commonly referred as Korn, KoЯn is just a stylization they use sometimes. You would be creating a new style by naming it that.  STATic  message me!  15:42, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was not released by the artist; no, it is not a bootleg. It is a vinyl put out professionally by a record label. The fact that it was not released by the artist is completely irrelevant and does not make it a bootleg. Albums by other artists on which Tech Nine features are also not put out by the artist, nor are they bootlegs. And it's on these releses that he has been credited as Tech Nine, Tech9, Teck 9, Teck9, Tek 9 & Tek9, all of which are closer to standard English than Tech N9ne, and therefore, according to Wiki guidelines, are the styles from which we must choose. You seem fixated on the idea that the artist's own preference matters. It doesn't. His own releases don't carry more weight than other people's releases on which he appears, any more than his own press releases carry more weight than coverage of his work in secondary sources. There are no grounds for choosing the trademark formatting that includes the unprounouced 9 in place of the i over the other variations that are closer to standard English. If you don't like Tech Nine and would prefer to go with Tech9, Teck 9, Teck9, Tek 9 or Tek9, then that would also be okay. I just think Tech Nine is closer to Tech N9ne than any of those other acceptable variations. Wetdogmeat (talk) 15:59, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Still waiting on that reliable sources that cover him under any of those names. You have yet to provide any. That is not an official album by anyone. It is not available for purchase on retailers such as Amazon.com or iTunes.  STATic  message me!  16:20, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * It is an official album by General Malice, Raw & Bboy 3000, featuring Tech Nine. It clearly says that on Discogs. See the record label, Nitrous Oxide Records? They even have a Wiki entry. See the release even has a catalog number, N2O 080? I don't know what its availability on Amazon or iTunes has to do with anything. It's clearly an obscure, limited vinyl release. But it's an official release nonetheless, no matter how many arbitrary claims to the contrary you want to make. Here it is listed for sale on United Records & Sound. Wetdogmeat (talk) 19:52, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment As STATic states, Discogs isn't a reliable source. Even if it were, it should be noted that the only listing under the "Tech Nine" alias on there is an unofficial release that the artist had no involvement in. I can somewhat see the argument regarding the Trademark style guidelines, what with the "special formating/characters." However that guideline also states "editors should choose among styles already in use by sources." It's not as if the majority of sources use "Tech Nine", while the artist prefers "Tech N9ne." The majority of sources use the "N9ne" variation. I think though, that this issue requires a wider audience, specifically with those that can weight in objectively. Is there a section of Wiki where a "dispute" like this to get some more opinions? While we're at it, maybe we could take this argument over to ¡Mayday! too. That one annoys me, haha. – Mizery Made  ( talk ·  contribs ) 08:58, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, perhaps that "getting more opinions" thing has already been done. Just saw the template and subsequent listing on that page. – Mizery Made  ( talk ·  contribs ) 09:01, 17 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support per canonical example of MOS:TM-related titles, Seven (not Se7en). Powers T 17:30, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support per MOS:TM, and for being gimmicky and inconsistent. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:20, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support for the same reason above. I am also not convinced by any of the opposition rationals.--174.95.111.89 (talk) 18:56, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support, per everyone. Red <b style="color:#460121;">Slash</b> 19:04, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose I have never seen his name written Tech Nine. This move will only confuse readers. Koala15 (talk) 19:06, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I would think that any reader with any amount of sense would realize that n9ne would be a stylized version of nine so I would see confusion as minimal at best. If anything I could see readers being more confused with the current setup since it is possible that n9ne could be pronounced as n nine ne, an issue that won't occur in nine is used instead.--174.95.111.89 (talk) 22:24, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
 * If you google "tech nine" you'll find that it's used in place of the stylised version by his fans on message boards, YouTube, etc, quite freely. I think this is a non-issue. Wetdogmeat (talk) 23:04, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

I disagree, he has the name "Tech N9ne" trademarked, this should be switched back. If you go to his site, it's called, "www.therealtechn9ne.com". That is his identity as a Strange Music Artist. By using the term Tech Nine, you could be talking about the Gun and could confuse people. Example, do a Google search and compare the two search results. You receive a more accurate search result from the n9ne instead of nine. I think this should be switched back. 2BARQUACK.COM (talk) 16:33, 27 June 2013 (UTC)


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 * I know that this is late but can Tech N9ne: The Psychumentary and Tech N9ne discography be moved as well since I see no reason that those article should be any different than this.--174.95.111.89 (talk) 02:00, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Note
Per the deadmau5 discussion, I've moved the page title back to what it previously was. Insulam Simia (talk/contribs) 15:46, 5 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Fully support as it is basically the exact same case. I could go on and on how many hits he will get on reliable sources such as Billboard, Rolling Stone, and various other reliable sources compared to this name he has never ever been referred to as except in unreliable sources. Hopefully the result of the discussions on Wikipedia talk:Article titles result in an official clarification so these horrible titles stop happening. MoS has exceptions and Tech N9ne along with Deadmau5 are the exceptions.  STATic  message me!  17:13, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Though I support the current title per sources, I’m not sure that a separate (though similar) RM can justify the move. But as with Deadmaus and Sunn (band), I can’t find any solid reliable sources that use “Tech Nine” over “Tech N9ne” when discussing the band. So if this goes to RM, count this comment as support per WP:COMMONNAME and per MOS:TM’s prohibition against invented styles. —Frungi (talk) 22:18, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * And since no one seems to have countered the comparison to the very similarly styled Se7en: The spelling of “Seven” is in wide use, regardless of whether “Se7en” is more popular. As far as I can tell, “Tech Nine” is not. —Frungi (talk) 22:27, 5 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Support "Tech Nine" per WP:AT (recognizability) and MOS:TM, etc, etc. --Rob Sinden (talk) 09:10, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
 * And Deadmau5 should be seen as an exception to the guideline. WP:OTHERSTUFF is not a reason to go round moving articles.  --Rob Sinden (talk) 09:26, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Revert
I have reverted. You cannot just ignore the results of an RM and move the article yourself in direct contradiction to it. You need to file another move request. Red <b style="color:#460121;">Slash</b> 08:30, 7 July 2013 (UTC)


 * This is the same exact case as Deadmau5, it is a number in a name and it was moved to a title NO RELIABLE SOURCES or sources at all call the subject. This is a pretty ridiculous and confusing title, and if more N9ne fanboys were on Wikipedia like deadmau the RM would not have passed in the first place. Someone typing in [{Tech Nine]] would more likely look for TEC-9. WP:COMMONNAME is all you have to refer to and Wetdogmeat even conceded to the page move on his talk page. Need I go on, 526 hits on Rolling Stone searching Tech Nine gets nothing related to the rapper. Google news search, 649 Tech N9ne... again same case for the opposite. Googling Tech Nine redirects your result to Tech N9ne, why would we do the opposite? Tech N9ne is the clear policy backed title and five editors(including the ones that have tried to move it since then), six if you count Wetdogmeat support the move back so there is consensus.  STATic  message me!  14:52, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not a supporter, I oppose the move back to Tech N9ne. I just acknowledge that the arguments made in relation to Deadmau5 apply almost exactly to this article too (and that includes the arguments of opposition), so that means the move back will inevitably go through. None of us needs a repeat performance. That said, it is not really appropriate for a single editor to make that call and go around overturning consensus after an RM for a bunch of 'family resemblance' cases. Wetdogmeat (talk) 17:47, 7 July 2013 (UTC)'
 * Yes that is correct, no need to go through an addition RM when the consensus is pretty clear not to mention that this title is kind of confusing, as it should redirect to TEC-9. It was probably wrong for him to go around over turning the RM at his own will, but the consensus clear for Tech N9ne now.  STATic  message me!  18:04, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
 * If it's the exact same case, I have great faith in the Wikipedia community to accurate interpret the guidelines and policies and support a move. If it's not, I have great faith that they will not form a consensus to move. File a move request. Red <b style="color:#460121;">Slash</b> 07:38, 8 July 2013 (UTC)