Talk:Ted Howard (author)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

Page moved. I should note that there is also a producer with the same name so we have two persons that don't have an article yet but are mentioned in other articles. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:32, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Ted Howard → Ted Howard (author) — There's now a page Ted Howard (politician). As Ted Howard doesn't appear to be the primary topic, I suggest that it be disambiguated. I would have moved the page if it had been clear to me whether the dab should be 'author' or 'social entrepreneur' or something else entirely. Hence I'm putting up a formal proposal, so that those with an interest in this page can discuss the most appropriate name.  Schwede 66  09:41, 23 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Ted Howard (disambiguation) → Ted Howard
 * Oppose. Ted Howard (politician) should be moved back to Edwin John Howard, where it was from creation until yesterday. His article says he was known as Ted only in "later life". This also solves the disambiguation issue. We shouldn't make readers go through dab pages for only two articles; hatnotes suffice. Although both articles have low readership, Ted Howard has been getting consistently more pageviews than Edwin John Howard, so even if we leave the new title on the politician, this should be primary with a hatnote. Station1 (talk) 20:19, 23 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your contribution. Can I suggest, though, that you stick to the things that are relevant here? Firstly, the NZ politician changed his name when he jumped ship, and that was before he got married at age 21. I have thus removed the ambiguous statement 'in later life'. All through his notable life he was known as Ted Howard. Secondly, if you want the other article moved, I suggest you go through the relevant process. Thirdly, this article already had a hatnote to a soccer player, hence there are three Ted Howards to disambiguate (that one of them is a redlink does not matter). Your last point, however, is a useful contribution – the author gets more pageviews than the politician. Let's see what the WP guidelines say. We have a primary topic when "it is [often] the case that one of these topics is highly likely – much more likely than any other, and more likely than all the others combined – to be the subject being sought when a reader enters that term in the Search box". Well, both articles have low readership, and that one gets twice as many views than the other hardly meets the 'much more likely' criterion. Hence, we don't have a primary topic and we should disambiguate, as per the proposal.  Schwede 66  04:33, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * That the politician was known as Ted for his adult life, not just later life, does make a difference, so Ted Howard (politician) might be the better title, although alternative names are also acceptable as article titles where they help disambiguate. I also agree that low readership makes a difference (which is why I mentioned it), so while this is not as clear cut a case as it would be if readership was multiplied by 100, "much more likely" is subjective and in my opinion with only two articles it's still better to get most people where they want to go directly, with the minority clicking on a hatnote to get to the politician's article as quickly as they would from a dab page. Station1 (talk) 05:53, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * In order to achieve more input to this, I have left notifications on the three relevant portal / project pages for the Ted Howards Arts and entertainment, WP Australia and NZ politics.  Schwede 66  04:45, 25 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I think the status quo of a hatnote suffices. Mattlore (talk) 04:51, 25 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Support move request. It seems that there is no primary topic here so both Teds get disambiguated. Orderinchaos 01:29, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Updating this page?
Hi folks! I work with Ted Howard at the Democracy Collaborative, and there are some factual things on this page that need editing. I don't want to violate WP:COI by doing these myself, but they are all uncontroversial factual edits.


 * In the first paragraph, the "Democracy Collaborative at the University of Maryland" should be changed to "Democracy Collaborative", since we are no longer affliated with UMD. Source
 * Also in the first paragraph, the text should be changed to indicate that Ted Howard served as the Steven Minter fellow at the Cleveland Foundation from 2010-2014.
 * The link for Ted's homepage in the side box should be pointed at
 * Residence in the sidebar should be changed to Cleveland, Ohio.
 * The publications section could be updated to include the reports Ted has co-authored:
 * The Anchor Dashboard: Aligning Institutional Practice to Meet Low-Income Community Needs
 * The Anchor Mission: Leveraging the Power of Anchor Institutions to Build Community Wealth
 * The public speaking section could be updated to include recent talks at the Clinton Global Initiative-America, the Initiative for a Competitive Inner City, the National Community Reinvestment Coalition, the Co-operatives United World Conference (Manchester, England), various regional Federal Reserve Banks, as well as at universities including the University of Pennsylvania, Yale, MIT, Georgetown, Oberlin, Michigan State and the Ohio State University. Source
 * The awards section could indicate that CFED named him an Innovative Idea Champion in 2010

I also think it would be ideal if Ted's Wikipedia page correctly reflected his focus over the past decade on "anchor institutions" as potential drivers of community wealth building. If I was editing it directly, I'd include a header "Anchor Institutions", and under it put something like "In presentations to the US Department of Housing and Urban Development and to the regional Federal Reserve Banks, Ted Howard has made the case that nonprofit anchor institutions like hospitals and universities can play a key role in economic development in low-income communities. In an interview published by ICIC, Howard defined anchor institutions and their relationship to their surrounding communities as:

...nonprofit or public institutions that are critical community assets and unlikely to relocate because of their mission, invested capital and customer relationships. The most prominent types of anchors are “eds and meds” (universities and hospitals), but others that are included in the mix include local governments, community foundations, and cultural and faith-based institutions. Unlike many corporations that come and go from communities, anchors are rooted in place and tend to stay put. They are “sticky capital.” As a result, anchors have greater incentives to focus on the long-term vitality of the place in which they reside.

Johnfduda (talk) 15:10, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

I am also totally happy to make these edits myself if they seem uncontroversial!

Johnfduda (talk) 20:21, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

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