Talk:Ted Staunton

CSD
This article is a re-creation of a page deleted via AfD. While the discussion took place some time ago, the article is a BLP sourced only from non-reliable sources and non-independent sources, which means the issues raised in the discussion have not been rectified. Modussiccandi (talk) 23:14, 1 February 2021 (UTC)


 * I have no idea what the content of the previous page was. I wrote the material myself, except for quoted sections.  I cited many things.  Would archives of cited sources qualify as more reliable? There are numerous international-reach news papers lately that have been changing their URLs, as such, would that qualify them, where the links become naturally dead, as non-reliable?  I do my due diligence to read as much as I can in the guidance on publishing and editing, and this was my first attempt, it feels like a rug being yanked out from my feet. Tomacpace (talk) 03:05, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Contested deletion
This page should not be speedily deleted because...


 * I have no active connection to this author, this is not written as an advertorial whether or not it sounds like it is; I was reading the "be bold" philosophy of Wikipedia entries previous to submitting this. The page was posted as a contribution to widely-published Canadian authors. Previously I have modified the Wikipedia page for Canadian writers, adding three very widely published authors.


 * I have attempted to find the previously deleted page, but was not able to find any relevant material, so as to contend against a message effectively "this is nearly identical to a past deleted article". How? I crafted this myself, based on information (which yet is on numerous sites, biographical and an attempt (incomplete) to produce an encyclopedic entry.


 * To say it is "not notable" based on relatively lacking news paper reviews... 'media', speaks more to the low-self-promoting nature of the individual, and diversified exposure (ie teaching through a post-secondary college in Toronto). The distribution is nation-wide and for decades, with many dozens of published books.  If one author's books are distributed widely across Canada in a large amount of public schools and libraries, and direct market through a school book publisher, meanwhile not in mass media, that should not inherently count as 'not notable', in my opinion.


 * Speedy deletion criteria: Criteria for speedy deletion: Articles, images, categories etc. may be "speedily deleted" if they clearly fall within certain categories, which generally boil down to pages lacking content, or disruptive pages. Anything potentially controversial should go through the deletion process instead.. I provided books, reviews (granted the reviews do sound advertorial but that is not the intent.  I have intention to further edit the page, but why should I at this point unless the deletion tag is removed?)


 * The guidelines are understandable but ought there be some degree of flexibility? I would naturally presumably there is flexibility (I presume good faith in the speedy deletion request, likewise, I expect my reasons here to be taken seriously). As mentioned above, I previously read, and am exercising the wikipedia "be bold", and exercising the "contest deletion", on a topic that is personally relevant to me and many Canadians.  I have interviewed the author 20 years ago while I was in public school, so I know his works in context and have exposure to the person as a publishing professional.  Likewise, I have personal knowledge and history of interaction with numerous other Canadian authors.


 * A deletion here, where the previous, now non-extant content is not reviewable for the sake of wikipedia contributor learning and differentiation, on specific grounds which cannot be contested effectively, on a topic that is relevant to many thousands of people, where nothing exists and I've put quality time into this as a first pass, would be very disempowering.

--Tomacpace (talk) 03:00, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Content updated
I had intended to update this at some point on a scheduled basis, but I've updated it now due to this threat of deletion. Tomacpace (talk) 08:05, 2 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Your best bet is to add book review excerpts from Kirkus, Publishers, and the like and cite them. Any magazine or newspaper articles or interviews with/about him too. It should be apparently to anyone looking into him that he passes notability standards. Apparently that did not happen here. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 12:11, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Here are some:
 * https://www.kirkusreviews.com/author/ted-staunton/
 * https://www.publishersweekly.com/978-1-4598-0434-0 (and more at PW)
 * https://www.slj.com/?authorName=STAUNTON%2C%20Ted DiamondRemley39 (talk) 13:43, 2 February 2021 (UTC)