Talk:Teen pop/Archive 1

Auto-tuned vocals
"Typical characteristics of teen pop music include auto-tuned vocals". Of course, these days there are auto-tuned vocals in teen pop, but it's true of the adult pop of this decade as well. And there's a lot of teen pop from earlier times which does not have auto-tuned vocals. 178.164.192.183 (talk) 10:20, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Misnomer?
Over all, teen pop gets the most consumers from pre-teens and younger. When was the last time you heard a teen with any pop at all? No, heavy metal, rock, and rap rule teen music, my friend. From experience. Erre 00:26, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Think you are absolutely wrong there. About 50% of the teens listen to this kind of commercial pop. The other big genres are hip-hop and electronic music, and then comes rock music... Out of experience.--Gustav Lindwall 10:11, 27 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Much like the magazine Seventeen, which is not read by (many) 17yos. Hyacinth 01:42, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * Of course, "preteen pop" doesn't have the same ring to it...Erre 00:41, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

"...thing most teen pop songs have in common is the visibility of the hand holding the strings."
 * What exactly does this mean? TheKillerAngel 00:31, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually, many of those genres you mentioned (hip-hop, rock, etc.) are really just pop with a little of those genres as influence. For example, you might call Paramore rock, but really they're pop with rock influence. Teens may not (or, may not admit to) listening to the pure, bubblegum type pop mentioned in this artice, but I don't think most teens actually listen to many genres other than pop as their main preference in music.Greenhplover (talk) 01:43, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia doesn't know, and cannot really find out what type of music genres teens listen to. In my opinion, the article's name is not a misnomer, because this type of "music" is often produced by singers during their teenage years, and oriented towards a teen fan base (unfortunately, since this is a major marketing strategy used by the big show-business corporations). From my experience, most things that are mainstream, are usually generic pop music. Occasionally, pop artists may have guest rappers in their songs, or a band maybe marketed as rock music, but in reality is only pop punk or pop rock. (e.g. Paramore, Avril Lavigne, Jonas Brothers, etc.) During the late 1990s/early 2000s, teen pop could be described as bubblegum pop or contemporary R&B, however current music trends point that electronic dance-pop is making a revival, thanks to artists like Kesha, Dev, Black Eyed Peas, Tiao Cruz, LMFAO, etc. Anyways I don't know why I'm contributing to a six-year old discussion, but I guess it's worth pointing out. — stay ( sic ) ! 04:45, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Necessity of this article
I'm not sure that this article should be categorized (not in the Wikipedia sense of categories, but in general) as a music genre. From what the article originally described, it just talks about music which has been marketed to teens, not a specific identifiable genre of music. --Albert Tellier 16:34, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I second what Albert Tellier said. I really don't think "teen pop" belongs in the music genre category. I'd even go so far as to say it's just a criticism of teen marketed music, but that's just my own opinion. Either way, I don't think "Teen Pop" can be classified as a music genre. There is certainly music that is very popular among preteens, tweens and teens, but it's a sweeping generalization to say what specific type of music it is, and that all of those popular artists and songs are similar enough in sound to be categorized in the same genre. Especially to say that the genre is so distinct from any other "pop" genre out there. Irish♣Pearl 01:50, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I find that the teen idol crossovers into Dance-pop, Chicago House, Techno, Rhythmic contemporary, &c. further complicate the issue. Paul Anka and Lesley Gore were both at the forefront of what would eventually become Rhythmic contemporary in the pre-Motown days; both Cassidy cousins David and Shaun were also in Rhythmic contemporary, while Leif Garrett covered the 1960's surf sound. Stacey Q and Deborah Gibson (the promoters and press called the latter Debbie back in the day) were both Dance-poppers, with Deborah branching into ballads starting with "Foolish Beat." Nowadays, they're all over the place and, if the CMT/Viacom series Nashville Star be any clue, threatening the Country market as had not been done since Tanya Tucker busted thereinto in the early 1970's. - B.C.Schmerker 05:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreeing with both of the above...I don't see any reason why this article should exist. --JD79 (talk) 14:55, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

The subgenres listed are almost completely incorrect
Emo? Adult Contemporary? Emo music is not derived from teen-pop, it in fact is derived from hardcore punk and indie rock. If Adult Contemporary was derivative of teen-pop, that would be LOL. AC is more accurately described as a derivative of Pop, Pop/Rock, or Alternative Pop/Rock. This would be according to AllMusicGuide. I could go on about the other two, but I'm not going to. TheKillerAngel 16:26, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I have currently removed the subgenres section in its entirety. TheKillerAngel 16:28, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Emo is for pessimists may be. However one thing is true - 90s teen pop was more optimistic than the current shit, qualified as teen pop. There is no teen pop at all now. Everything is R&B, hip-hop and rap, emo and pop-phunk, which is really sad. 213.240.234.212 18:06, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Unnecessary "See also" section
I've removed the "see also" section, as almost every link in that section was linked elsewhere in the article. The exception is Lou Pearlman, which could be put into the notable artists section. I've tagged that section for rewriting, as I feel it needs a better layout, possibly in list format, rather than a long sentence of links. – Tivedshambo (talk) 12:21, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

What "Teen Pop" Is
As I can see in the above discussion, there is ambiguity as to what "teen pop" is. Teen pop does not refer to a style of music, as some have stated. Teen music refers to the music itself, but it is usually identified as being teenybopper or pop rock, etc. However, "teen pop" refers to the teen/tween/teenybopper subculture. Thus, it has a lot broader perspective than many would have imagined and in essence refers to teen culture--Xx kidschoice xx (talk) 22:36, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Pure Pop Reference
There is quite a few times when Teen Pop is referred to as 'Pure Pop' - as some fans are not teenagers and so use this term instead on blogs as they are still fans of the music (though some would just say Cheesy Pop, but some others would say that could be overlapping with a lot of 'dance-pop' tunes). However as a lot of these 'Pure Pop' references are linked to blogs that wouldn't be accepted by wiki it hard to get proper links — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.238.119 (talk) 17:41, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Unnecessry Redirect
I did a search for Teen Culture and was redirected to this article... Teen Culture is way more than just 'pop' it includes a vast amount more than whats in this article, I think this redirect should be removed as it is misleading to anyone looking for information on the lives of teenagers today. Dannyboy8406 (talk) 13:31, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Please include more references
I think this article is under-referenced. I am sure there is more pop study than included here. -Media clutz (talk) 11:44, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Miley cyrus fanbase of retards?
Ok i know that's not justifible as a something to put on wikipedia.an someone please remove it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.145.55.229 (talk) 22:38, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Current/Former Teen Pop Idols
How are these people being judged on how current they are? The list of current idols includes Backstreet Boys, but I wouldn't consider BSB to be current anymore. Also, why isn't Chris Brown on the current side of the list? I know he had a recent fall from grace, but the other artists on the former side of the list are those that recorded years ago and are not likely to record again. 71.37.249.110 (talk) 21:43, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Category
How about we create a category for "teen pop musicians", instead using a list.- Binary TSO ???

"dumbed down lyrics"
"dumbed down lyrics" vs "Please maintain a neutral, unbiased point of view." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.222.96.132 (talk) 00:14, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit war by user Ridernyc
I made this edition, i.e. added Kylie Minogue to the article (with the two sources). User Ridernyc reverted this edition with the description of the changes "Already more then enough examples listed". Later, I added this at the same time removing one from the USA (was mentioned 5 artists from America, none from other countries), after my edit (4 artists from America, 1 from other countries = NPOV). User Ridernyc reverted it, again i.e. user Ridernyc introduced/maintain 5 poorly listed artists from the America and has removed one of the other country = break rules of Wikipedia: NPOV. In total, user Ridernyc made ​​four reverts = break rules of Wikipedia: 3RR. I ask why? Why user Ridernyc forbid enter a world-known singer from outside the U.S? Subtropical-man (talk) 17:44, 24 January 2013 (UTC)