Talk:Tefnut/Archive 1

Nonsense Sentence
"With her brother, Shu, she was the mother of Geb and Nut." What does this mean? How can she be a mother "with her brother"? If this is right, can it be explained more fully? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.178.143.98 (talk) 03:24, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Shu and Tefnut are the children of Atum. They become the parents of Nut and Geb, so they are both brother and sister and a 'couple'. This is not so shocking in Ancient Egypt where the king would sometimes marry a sister to preserve the royal line. In any case these gods represent functions of the cosmos - or its creation not people. You can't read modern perspectives into it.Apepch7 (talk) 22:52, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * IP was specifically referring to my poor English I'm afraid, not the intricacies of Egyptian sexual mores. She of course isn't a mother 'with her brother', it needed to say something like 'she married her brother Shu and was the mother of...." I note someone else has corrected this today. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:01, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Name
Her name means "moist waters" - rain? That makes no sense. Did someone mean to type moist air? Elsewhere I find that it just means "She of moisture." (tallulahjae) I agree, It makes no sense!

Tefnut (created through masturbation)
Now, I'm far from an Egyptologist, but when I read this and I was suspecting that the line was someone's idea of a lark. I did some research and the means with which she was created indeed seem to be Atum wanking off. Anyways, my point is that there should probably be a citation in order to back up this claim, because it does seem a little "out there" at first. I'm not an expert Wikipedia editor, so here's a link:

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/tefnut.htm

Thanks,

Hazuki —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hazuki (talk • contribs) 00:59, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, yes! It's vandalism! Thanks for catching that, Hazuki ;) BlackPearl14 [ talkies!•contribs! ] 01:18, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * many deities were created from the semen of other gods, sometimes castraded gods, ect. Anyways the total lack of sources is a major problem with this article.Sanitycult (talk) 04:46, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

myth question
Does anyone have any sources for the myth of Tefnut fleeing to Nubia? I have heard frequently that the myth was originally attributed to Menhyt and Anhur (who Shu is often identified with) but other that the fact that she fled and was convinced back by Djehuty and Shu, not much else. Anyone have a source? 204.112.156.253 (talk) 01:57, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * That myth is also associated with Hathor. In that version, she is a dual goddess - benevolent fertility goddess and the 'Eye of the Sun', a fierce guardian of the sun god himself. She gets upset with her father Ra and flees to Nubia and assumes her alternate form of a raging lioness (sometimes said to be Sekhmet). Thoth disguises himself as a baboon and tells her several morality tales that highlight Ra's various aspects, and gets her to go back to her father in time to be his protector again before his enemies can converge. This version of the legend is found in Gods and Pharaohs from Egyptian mythology by Geraldine Harris. Saintvlas22 (talk) 18:01, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Referencing
I've added some info I've had sitting around in a sandbox. Mine's done with cite templates because when I started this article had no references whatsoever (as someone observed above), and I prefer to use templates for scholastic sources. Would anybody object - I'm happy to put the other refs into cites myself for consistency. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 00:51, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 * No objection here; I'm just glad somebody's working on the article. A. Parrot (talk) 21:23, 19 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes please add your other references.Apepch7 (talk) 00:59, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Hope to work on it over the next week or so --Elen of the Roads (talk) 02:47, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Pronunciation
is anglicized and entirely obvious. Removed per. If it really seems needful to have that here instead of Tefnut's Wiktionary entry (and it's not), find a to include instead of just some  IPA. — Llywelyn II   05:45, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Pointed Ears
I have removed the line advocating that Sekhmet has round ears and Tefnut pointed ears. The source for it is no longer available, and I cannot find support for the contention in any of the academic publications I have, several of which contain pictures of the goddess with distinctly round ears. All the sources on the web seem to be from non-academic sites, and may be sourced from here. No problem with someone adding it back if they have a scholarly source (not the Llewellyn book of Egyptian Goddesses or what have you). 212.50.177.101 (talk) 11:17, 6 October 2015 (UTC)