Talk:Teimour Radjabov

Grandmaster
This guy is about 19 years and already a grandmaster, doesnt that make him the youngest grandmaster ever? Baku87 23:21, 9 May 2006 (UTC)Baku87


 * He was at the age of 14, but now there's a younger grandmaster. Grandmaster 04:23, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Do we have any information on that even younger player? Also shouldnt it be noted that Teimour recently was appointed as the ambassador of Azerbaijan to some organisation, I readed it here. Also in that article his name is written as, Teymur Rajabov should we perhaps make a redirect to that name aswell? Baku87 13:20, 13 May 2006 (UTC)Baku87


 * The Magnus Carlsen (Wunderkid) entry is quite detailed. This article should interest you: http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2858 └ VodkaJazz / talk ┐ 19:56, 18 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Wow thats incredible man, its so weird to see a young player beating a experienced chessmaster Baku87 14:19, 22 May 2006 (UTC)Baku87

armenianNY
Why Aronian is so lucky when playing with Azeri grands? Last year it was Shah, this year it is Radjabov. And you Grandmaster if keep removing my comments I will file a complain on you because your allegations are groundless and pretensious indeed--armenianNY 05:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC) - - Hey you, subseven, stop playing games here ok? Better deal with the problems in your MA. Covert Azeri agent, recognize your responsibilities and limitations. YOu have no business to decide what should people say in the discussion part. Whatever you like you leave whatever you dislike you remove or revert with stupid explanations. Get lost from Aronian and Radjabov' s sites and mind your business.--armenianNY 05:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC) - OK, he just made the draw with Topalov. This means Radjabov did not win the tournament in Wejk aan Zee because Topalov will be the first due to his high individual score. - Wow, we just learned Aronian beat Tivjakov. Now Radjabov will be moved to the third place. --armenianNY 05:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by ArmenianNY (talk • contribs)

I do not think there is any reason to spell his name like Teymour. We have to relate to the spelling of his name in his native Azeri language. And since Azeris use Latin letters in their written language then Azeri spelling Teymur should be maintained in English as well.For example, nobody transliterates Wijk aan Zee into Vaik an Zeye from Dutch to English as it is pronounced in English. The same way Tivjakov spells with J and not i because it is the spelling in English. And his last name should be written as Radcabov.

There is not need to mention that he is Jewish. If he conceals the fact that he is a Jew and does not mention it in his interviews (citation please, if he does) then mentioning that he is Jewish sounds either very antisemitic or the person, who points out that, is very pround of Radjabov's Jewish heritage. As a matter of fact, parallels with Kasparov are not even appropriate since Kasparov considers himself Armenian and not Jewish (which in true according to Jewish Galakha rules,since his mother is Armenian. Next time, please lets do not stress out people's ethnic backgrounds if these persons do not come out themselves. As for today, Radjabov is considered to be Azeri. Of course he looks like a real Jewish guy,so does Mamedyarov, but these facts are not for encyclopedic reference. Moreover, Berlin based Aronian's father is Jewish as well, but that does not make any sense for us Armenians, we consider himself an Armenian chess player. I hope very much Armenian wikiproject member Eupator is not involved in any kind of zionistic propaganda, and he is not an anti-semit either.--armenianNY 04:14, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm going to let you off the hook with a warning this time, spout similar insults and incivil rhetoric again and I will report your behaviour.--  Ευπάτωρ   Talk!! 16:09, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Eupator, if I were you I would have stayed cool. As a matter of fact it is you and not armenianny who needs to be reported. He clearly stated and wikipedia as well accepted, that pointing out prominential people's religion as a profiling information is not politically correct. When you emphasize that Radjabov is Jewish you first, insult Azerbaijani people because you do not want to accept that Azerbaijanis can also have good chess player and even when they have, they are mostly Jews. Second, if you want to show that you are pround of your and Radjabov;s Jewish heritage, then there is a good part of wikipedia called discussions where you can express your emptions and tell us that you are proud of being a Jew along with Radjabov.But when you want to start the encyclopedic entry or information about one of the talented chess players in the world with words "he is Jewish" you insult Jewish people because you offer it as a stigma. I talked to a lot of Jewish intellectuals and they all had the same opinion; to mention that somebody is Jewish is anti-semitism, any how, in any way, under any souce or contrast, you can not mention persons religion or ethnicity in the beginning of the profiling info. It is kind of infamous 5th paragraph of Soviet passports where along with name last name and place of birth age and other IDs Soviet authorities pointed out people's nationalities or moreover religion especially for Jewish people. It is the same thing that to start the article about Marat Safin with the words "very well known, former number one Russian muslim tatar tennis player". Will it be correct? of course no. Or Vladmir Mashkov who is a very well known Russian actor reminding us Marcello Mastroiani in his young ages,and who is of some Italian heritage will get offended immidiately if the Russian movie database tells the readers that he is a Russian actor and both he and Marcello Mastroiani have catholic fathers. So what? He is Russian (although catholic), Marcello is Italian. By doing this we will point out that all the Russians are orthodox and Vladimir Mashkov is catholic, he is an exception, he is a stigma. All I would like to tell you that you have to obey the rules, instead of personally attacking or correcting the changes made by others.Sorry for not signing,ERKIN FEB09/07
 * I don't get all this, he is of Jewish heritage, yes or no? I fail to see how pointing to his Jewish heritage is anti-semitism or anti-Azeri? The analogy of him being half Jewish like Kasparov is as is the same as the analogy in the article Eupator has provided. armenianny is a kid, check his contributions, check his contributions on Aronian articles talk page. Also "Jewish" is not only a religion, it is an ethnicity as well, those it is relevent. Fad (ix) 00:33, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The article on Grandmaster Michael Adams does not say that he is ethnically White. The article on Grandmaster Nigel Short does not say that he is ethnically White. The article on Grandmaster ... etc. It's simply not relevant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newzild (talk • contribs) 12:37, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * In your opinion, which has no bearing upon Wikipedia's policies. Toccata quarta (talk) 13:50, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Definite Facts Needed
A lot of Radjabov's accomplishments are described without a definite tone. "It is also believed that Radjabov became the youngest player in history to defeat a reigning world #1 in a game at tournament time controls." and "He is probably the first player ever to beat three former and reigning FIDE World Chess Champions with the black pieces in one year." Can someone look these up and give definite examples?

Plus, the line "Radjabov became the first player born since Kasparov first became World Chess Champion in 1985 to defeat him." is definitely not true as Kasparov has lost many games after becoming champion most notably to Kramnik in 2000. --Must WIN 22:38, 29 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Kramnik was born before 1985. Peter Ballard 00:10, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Anti-Armenian Category
The anti-Armenianism category is irrelevant here. You cannot add such a category for a single statement that was probably misquoted. --Grandmaster (talk) 20:37, 18 April 2008 (UTC) It is relevant as this quote is too much famous and was condemned by FIDE leadership. noone rejected the responsibility! Andranikpasha (talk) 20:41, 18 April 2008 (UTC)


 * No. This person is not known for his constant anti-Armenian statements. There was only one incident, which according to Rajabov was due to misquoting by mass media. Not enough reason for this category. Grandmaster (talk) 20:49, 18 April 2008 (UTC)


 * It doesn't take constant statements to become anti-Armenian. Statements such as "враг остается врагом. Мы все ненавидели их. Но в такой момент стараешься подавить эти чувства, чтобы они не мешали." are clearly anti-Armenian. And he never denied that he made the statement and it would be nice if you could source his supposed clarification. VartanM (talk) 21:10, 18 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I actually agree with Grandmaster on this one. One public statement does not really justify an individual getting an anti-armenian tag. There would have to be a track record of the individual making similar public statements on different occasions. Meowy  22:04, 18 April 2008 (UTC)


 * What are you talking about VartanM? The clarication is clearly sourced.


 * "Anti-Armenian" seems to me to be an inherently POV designation. Therefore I am removing it, until a reliable source can be found which says "Radjabov is anti-Armenian". Peter Ballard (talk) 05:50, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

And I fully agree. What does Rajabov has to do with the "Anti-armenianism"? --Aynabend (talk) 11:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I think the "Racism" headline doesn't belong on Radjabov's page, based on one single quote Radjabov himself said was incorrectly ascribed to him by a reporter. Bindingwithbriars (talk) 19:58, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Changing the above mentioned headline to "Controversies" since calling Radjabov a racist isn't particularly well founded.Bindingwithbriars (talk) 07:13, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

More analysis beneficial
It would be great to have a little more analysis on the sample game, specifically if White accepts the sacrifice on move 22 (duh!), and also if White takes the pawn on move 25. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 13:55, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Controversies
I don't think it's appropriate to have a section called controversies in this article. Such section headlines are genereally discouraged per WP:Criticism which states "Sections or article titles should generally not include the word controversies". Controversis are further defined to be "protracted public disputes", and I don't think this is the case here. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 17:47, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I think your points are valid, and we should find a way to either integrate the material someplace else in the article or to adjust the section title. Quale (talk) 21:23, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I tried a different secname. (If not good, just revert.) Ok, Ihardlythinkso (talk) 12:43, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit warring
The information about Radjabov's early life should remain in this article; it is sourced and standard on biographical articles on Wikipedia. WP:NOENG covers the issue of the languages of sources. To the IP-hopping edit warrior: you have violated WP:3RR. Toccata quarta (talk) 09:50, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

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