Talk:Tel Megiddo

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Added information gleaned from the NY Times regarding the Ancient Church at Megiddo. Added portion regarding the fact that there was a roman officer who apparently donated money to said church.

Soldan 21:40, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

meggido
is not a settlement, its inside the 1948 lines.


 * I think the word "settlement" here is not used in the political sense familiar to Israelis but as a "a place were people settled" ("Yeshuv"). Maybe a more accurate adjective might be "Kibutz" because this is what the modern settlement really is. Amos Shapira 00:38, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


 * It's a kibbutz. It is literally a five minute walk down the gentler slope of the Tel into the kibbutz as well. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie Say Shalom! 03:34, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

In this paragraph on Thutmose 3 and Megiddo, it begins by describing Thutmose crossing the Euphrates then attacking Megiddo, which is very confusing because from Egypt to Megiddo is only one river to cross and its the Nile not Euphrates. Additionally Thutmose would have attacked the Levant Kingdoms before going too far East (you close the back door before opening the front one) so the idea he attacks Mesopotamia and then doubles back re-crosses the Euphrates to attack Megiddo, relatively close to home Egypt, is highly unlikely and there is no record of the events taking place in the sequence as described in this paragraph. needs changing as it simply fictitious. Coldcall (talk) 14:16, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Bogus name in section
I rather doubt this is accurate: "Head excavator, P.L.O. Guy,". Palestine Liberation Organization Guy? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.66.103.42 (talk) 05:02, 24 April 2007 (UTC).

This is, indeed, the name of the excavator: Lt. Col. Philip Langstaffe Ord Guy, who went by P.L.O. guy in publications. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mja198 (talk • contribs) 14:57, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 * He was a real excavator there. Yes that name is the source of a few jokes when it comes up. =p Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie Say Shalom! 03:35, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Calls for what?
In the following section-

An inscription in the Megiddo church calls for a Roman officer, "Gaianus," who donated "his own money" to have a mosaic made. Those who propose an early dating for this site have questioned whether a Roman officer would risk his career or even his life to build a church[5]

What is meant by 'calls for'?

Should it instead say 'mentions', 'praises', or 'pays tribute to'?

81.129.255.121 (talk) 16:15, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Changed it to mentions, added quote from Joe Zias and an external link you might be intereted in. Dougweller (talk) 18:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Map
Can someone who is cartographically inclined, please add a map of the exact location. GPS also. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.53.3.229 (talk) 13:09, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

"'Armageddon' has become a byword for the end of the age."
'''The Book of Revelation mentions apocalyptic military amassment at Armageddon, a name derived from the Hebrew "Har Megiddo" meaning "Mount of Megiddo". The word has become a byword for the end of the age.[1]''' I replaced 'The word' with 'Armageddon' to avoid confusion. This phrase implies that "end of the age" is found in The Revelation, it is not. That prophetic phrase is found in Matthew 24:3 (New Internation Version). 12/21/12 is the end of the Age of Pisces and the beginning of the Age of Aquarius. - Ben Hirt — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.196.11.183 (talk) 23:40, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

BC or BCE Dates?
Hi. Are we using BCE or BC dates in Wikipedia? I was under the impression that the traditional dating acronym BC was to be used over that of the more neutral and scientific BCE? Similarly, my inquiry would also pertain to CE dates versus that of AD dates. Which one are we using, as I doubt that we would be using both? ````
 * See WP:ERA. Neither one is preferred. Doug Weller  talk 21:34, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

The etymology section doesn't say what the word means.
That's why I usually go to an etymology section for.--JaredMithrandir (talk) 04:53, 8 November 2016 (UTC)


 * There are some theories, but actually nobody knows. Zerotalk 08:15, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The way Herodotus renders it when referring to Necho's Battle of Megiddo, has me wondering if it could be related to Migdol, the Hebrew word for Tower, and/or possible the city alluded to in the name Mary Magdalene.--JaredMithrandir (talk) 17:34, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

The only etymology here is that of the transformed term Armageddon; nothing about the origins and meaning of Megiddo as such. If there are any theories, mentioning them could be better than nothing. Anyway, in regard to that long list of ancient names: what non-locals called it are mere distortions of the Canaanite name. Only the Amarna letters might render the local name of the time correctly, although the royal scribes might have used the Akkadian version expected in diplomatic correspondence; plus that we don't have a secure transliteration of the cuneiform. As of any connection to migdal, I would guess there is none, as the final 'l' is part of the word, not just a suffix, but I'm not a scholar. Mary M.'s town is quite universally identified with the one from the shore of the Sea of Galilee called Magdala in Aramaic, Hebrew and migdal were rather out-of-fashion in her time. Arminden (talk) 16:44, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

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 * Model of Megiddo, 1457 BCE..jpg

Creation of category "EB cities in Southern Levant"
Please see discussion here. Arminden (talk) 09:30, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

appropriate to use a definite article?
I noticed the article is not using "the" when referring to the neolithic or chalcolithic periods. I can't find any reference reason why this would be, so I have added. if there is a reason I am unaware of, please remove the additions. Moyn2030 (talk) 04:31, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Lead. Article topic. Arabic name.
The lead must reflect the fact that the article is called Tel Megiddo, not Megiddo. So the name of the tell in various languages comes first, and that of the city comes after that.

The Arabic name one finds in archaeological literature is Tell el-Mutesellim. Not Tell Mejidu or alike. What was indicated as the Arabic name, مجیدو , is according to the S. Morse transliteration tool "MGDW, MJDW, MGDU, MJDU", so Mejidu or similar. 1) "Tell" is missing, and 2) I don't see anywhere in the article the claim that there was an older Arabic name preserving the original Canaanite one, as has been often the case in the region. So I smell BS here. Prove me wrong. Arminden (talk) 18:43, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Strata
Given how frequently the article discuses particular strata, a section like Tel Hazor which tabulates and contextualises the strata would be helpful to readers, especially since 'stratum' is starting to enter the realm of specialist language which a general reader might not have come across before. Richard Nevell (talk) 11:05, 12 May 2024 (UTC)