Talk:Television show/GA1

GA Reassessment
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The article as it stands now falls short of several good article criteria. Please feel free to add your comments under the appropriate heading.  Czech Out  ☎ |  ✍  01:55, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * All of your comments are valid, however, this article should never have been assessed to GA in the first place. Looking through the edit history it seems that this article was assessed by an editor to GA from Start class four month ago. This editor does not appear to be a participant in WikiProject Television, nor does this editor appear to have any experience with assessing articles in general. I'll assume good faith and suggest that this was simply a mistake. I recommend this article be returned to Start class. Sarilox (talk) 02:16, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Subject unclear
Rule 1a states that the article must have prose which is clear. The article fails to achieve this goal. It seems to be definiing a wide range of other, but related, concepts. The fact that season (television) redirects to this article is but one bit of evidence in that regard. There's a huge and definable difference between a television season and a television program, and it makes this article's prose considerably unclear as it struggles to define both. Basically, the "logic" of the article is that it tries to define all senses of the word, which ends up leaving the reader totally confused. It defines US "program" as a synonym for US "series", then takes a left turn to note that UK "series" means US "season". Clarity would demand that tHis article should concentrate on US "program"/UK "programme", and provide only parenthetical reference to a wholly separate article (as yet, I believe, unwritten) about US "season"/UK "series".

Article has no references
Rule 2 maintains that a good article must be factually accurate and verifiable. With no references at all, therefore, this article cannot be considered a "good article". This dearth of references also offends Reviewing good articles, and is sufficient on its own to delist this article.

Insufficient scope
Rule 3 says that a good article should be broad in coverage. This article is so concerned with the various American/British terminology wars that it fails to really give coverage to much outside the English-speaking world.

Instability
Rule 5 says the article should be stable, which the discussion would indicate isn't true of this article. There's a great deal of debate about the subject of the article on the talk page, with almost all of the points raised seeming to have merit. I think this struggle comes down to the fact that Rule 1a and Rule 2 haven't been satisfied in a meaningful way. In particular, the lack of references has turned this article into a flash point between American and British English speakers. Whether, technically, the history reveals a genuine edit war is perhaps debatable, but it's clear that it has engendered discussion revealing deep and justifiable dissatisfaction with the article that has continued into 2009.

No illustrations
Rule 6 requires illustrations if possible. This might seem to be an unachievable goal, and maybe it is. I'm not terribly clear on copyright law. But it would certainly help the article to have a photo of a box set of the complete run of a television program(me). Is it legal to put up a picture of, say, the complete Seinfeld box set of DVDs, prominently displaying the season numbers? If so, a caption reading, "The television program, Seinfeld" might make the topic immediately clear. And such a picture wouldn't, one would think, be all that difficult for many editors to take.

Valid cleanup banners present
This article has carried three cleanup banners for over a year, all of which are obviously valid. This falls foul of Reviewing good articles.

Unasked, I took a swing (actually a rather large machete) to the "Season/Series" section to make it more clear, and break out a few of the larger television producing nations' viewpoints.

Riventree (talk) 07:01, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

International view
I'd like to add a passage on international TV programs performance and international TV format trading. For details please check my User page: Mentalmoses (talk) 14:53, 18 April 2010 (UTC). Any comments? Thanks, Mentalmoses (talk) 14:53, 18 April 2010 (UTC)