Talk:Temeraire (series)

I have created a (stub) page for His Majesty's Dragon, and linked it from here. Those of you considering working on this page will probably also want to work on that one, too! One thing I might suggest is modifying what I put in about dragon breeds in that one and move it to here, since it's more general information really, right? (I don't have the time, and I've got a low laptop battery, so I can't do it just yet myself :P) Runa27 05:40, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Nevermind. As you can see, I moved it (and tweaked it a tiny bit in the process) from His Majesty's Dragon. Initial history can be found there. Runa27 18:05, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Trivia: the Celestial's ability, divine wind, is called kamikaze in Japan; should this be included as a point of interest? -Izaak


 * I would say no. They aren't Japanese dragons.  It might be nice to have the Mandarin translation though. -Athaler 20:18, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It's curious: in Blood of Tyrants, Laurence ends up visiting Japan and visiting a shrine that is (supposedly) where the last Celestial eggs were stolen from Japan. So... are they Chinese? 98.156.249.149 (talk) 02:27, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Minor curiosity, I haven't read any book in this series and it seems fairly interesting, excellent article, but I'm fairly sure that dragon in Japanese is ryu (pronounced ree-you) so would that be the proper spelling of Ka-Ryu and Sui-Ryu (fire dragon and water dragon respectively)? Rayfire 05:39, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

I believe that the spelling given is correct as per the books- The name is written by a character 'in setting' (so it can presumed he's spelling it 'correctly' for a 19th century Briton), I wouldn't change it unless it's fixed in a later book. However, can someone confirm the name 'Sui-Riu' as actually being mentioned in the books? I know Japanese 'waterspout breathers' are mentioned in the first book, but no breed name is given to them there, nor have I found it in later books. So is this name just a guess by a fan?


 * Yes, that's how it's spelled in the books. Can't give a page number, but I remember noting it when I read them. -Athaler 20:18, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't know where the name from the Japanese dragons came from. I did edit the lists to make them more manageable and supplied information straight from the books on characters and dragons. (I had made lists of ships and battles that play prominent roles, but hadn't got that far yet.) I'm not sure where the Scarlet Flowers or Emerald Dragon (Chinese listing) came from either, as I didn't catch them in Black Powder War or Throne of Jade. I need to read HMD again to go through the references and flesh out the characters. Pejorative.majeure 13:28, 5 October 2006 (UTC) The're found, both in  Throne of Jade  Lee Tru. (talk) 21:56, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

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Tecumseh as US President?
According to this article, it mentions that in Blood of Tyrants that Tecumseh as the President of the United States in 1812 rather than James Madison as in OTL. However, when I look on the Blood of Tyrants article, it never mentioned him as President. Is the article wrong or does the Blood of Tyrants article in need of update? --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 14:50, 27 April 2017 (UTC)


 * It is a single passing mention in a conversation with an American dragon and Temeraire. Nothing material to the plot of Blood of Tyrants but worth a mention in an overall article discussing differences in between real and fictional history. Dabbler (talk) 11:32, 28 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for telling me that Dabbler. I wonder how he is the US President in this alternate history series instead of Madison. I wonder if Native Americans have more rights in that timeline in the early 1800s. That does raise a question on how that is possible. Maybe the fact of the Native Americans having dragons could be part of it? --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 20:30, 28 April 2017 (UTC)


 * I think that in some cases such as the Tswana, Indians and Incas, the indigenous peoples' cooperation with local dragons meant that the European colonial attempts were beaten off completely. In North America they seem to have been more successful but resulted in a much more equal outcome between the incomers and indigenous people. Dabbler (talk) 02:55, 29 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Hmm, you are probably right about that. That is a good point you made Dabbler. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 17:57, 30 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Well, I've just added Tecumseh to the List of Temeraire characters article in the section of OTL historical figures. It's just a brief discription though, only mentioning that he was mentioned as US President in 1812. It isn't much, but it will do for now! --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 20:35, 13 June 2017 (UTC)