Talk:Temptation

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Melissa Edwards (talk • contribs) 16:24, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

quotations
I know that there is a specific page for quotations on Wiki but I just couldn't resist putting it in here!83.180.128.192 09:05, 12 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Likewise. PiCo 11:56, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Derivation
The article currently suggests that few cultures outside of Western Christianity had any any concept of, or even word for, temptation. However, the single example given seems insufficient to prove such a broad statement: "Many non-Western cultures had no precise equivalent until coming into contact with Europeans; for example, Jesuit missionaries in Brazil, translating the Lord's Prayer into Old Tupi, had to use the Portuguese word tentação, since Tupi had no word expressing "temptation" in that sense (see Old Tupi language#Sample text)." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.229.193.152 (talk) 07:27, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

temptation
The definition should include the obsolete or archaic definition of this word, which is to test. The Lord's prayer is a good example. When we say, "and lead us not into temptation" we aren't asking God not to lure us into evil but are asking Him not to put us to the test.

temptation
One can be tempted for good or evil. We are tempted to do good much more than evil. When you are hesitant about helping someone or giving to a beggar...that is temptation for good. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.139.1.68 (talk) 20:02, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Possible References
Here is a list of possible references I will use to enhance this page on Temptation. Any help/guidance on this project is appreciated.

Effects of temptation-inhibiting and task-facilitating plans on self-control. Patterson, Charlotte J.View Profile; Mischel, WalterView Profile. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology33.2 (Feb 1976): 209-217.

Falling or Not Falling into Temptation? Multiple Faces of Temptation, Monetary Intelligence, and Unethical Intentions Across Gender Tang, Thomas Li-pingView Profile; Sutarso, Toto. Journal of Business Ethics116.3 (Sep 2013): 529-552.

Turning a blind eye to temptation: How cognitive load can facilitate self-regulation. Van Dillen, Lotte F.; Papies, Esther K.; Hofmann, WilhelmView Profile. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology104.3 (Mar 2013): 427-443.

Incorporating spirituality into the psychology of temptation: Conceptualization, measurement, and clinical implications. Webb, Jon R.View Profile. Spirituality in Clinical Practice1.3 (Sep 2014): 231-241.

Characteristic self-esteem, sex, and resistance to temptation. Eisen, Marvin. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology24.1 (Oct 1972): 68-72. Melissa Edwards (talk) 16:34, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Proposed Changes
I edited the definition and included a reference with it. This definition is more so from the social psychology standpoint. I plan to expand on that topic of tempation in the social psychology standpoint. Once I find more reliable resources I will include a definition and information for temptation in the context of spirtuality. Melissa Edwards (talk) 18:22, 18 June 2015 (UTC) I have also included a short description of how temptation is thought of in the context of self-control and ego depletion. Melissa Edwards (talk) 18:22, 18 June 2015 (UTC) There is more I hope to add soon, so the Lead Section can be completed. Resources have been a bit of a challenge. So if there is any help you can give, I will truly appreciate it. Melissa Edwards (talk) 18:22, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

I plan to begin working on the body portion by the beginning of next week. Melissa Edwards (talk) 18:22, 18 June 2015 (UTC) Draft/Outline of New Lead Section The definitions I have presented have citations included with them, unlike the one listed on the main page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Melissa Edwards (talk • contribs) 17:10, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Temptation is an unwanted conflict between short-term urges and long-term goals. Temptation is thought to be a function of self-control. (Note: Here within the definition, after conducting more research I want to expand the definition so that it includes more contextual factors).

In the context of religion, temptation is a spiritual struggle when striving to have self-control in the face of undesirable wants. (Note: Here, like above, I will expand/elaborate on this definition as soon as I gather more research and able to gather and organize a well developed definition. This is just a starting point of where I will go with this part of the definition).

The lead section will include a paragraph(s) on how humans are faced with temptations on a daily, how self-control, cognitive impairments, impulsive behavior, social moral values plays a role in temptation, and state the abilities needed in order to identify temptations. Overall incorporate how temptation applies to humans and the key components of temptation.

Proposed Changes My plan with this topic is to first update and expand the lead section information through the use of the proper in-text citation and references. In the lead section there will be definitions that define temptation from a social psychology standpoint along with a definition in the context of religious outlooks on the subject. There will be a brief discussion as to why this subject is notable and/or important to have on Wikipedia. I will conduct this task while remaining to have a neutral point of view.

Melissa Edwards (talk) 16:55, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Overall, I want to discuss temptation in the context of social psychology, but expand on the topic in a religious context. I will probably change and add new headings to better fit my findings and to appropriately organize the work. As I complete further research I hope to discuss things such as addiction in relation to temptation and clinical applications that apply to the subject (i.e, expression of temptation, effects of temptation, and possibly treatment outlooks). I am sure throughout this project there will be changes made on my behalf and I welcome any help on this project. If there are any resources you know of that may help or information you believe I should have or not have for this article please let me know because I am open to hearing them. Thank you. Melissa Edwards (talk) 16:55, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

It was suggested to me to add information on the relation of cultures and temptation. I have had a hard time finding reliable research I could use for the Wiki page, so if there is someone who could later add that information I think it would be an interesting and great header for this article. Melissa Edwards (talk) 19:25, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Melissa,

I think you've done a great job with the article thus far. I would only add to include sources for the non religious temptation part of this page. Looking forward to seeing the end result!

-Jasmine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lovejonespink (talk • contribs) 00:21, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Jasmine, adding more sources and information is definitely in my plans for this article. Melissa Edwards (talk) 16:05, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

SocPsych Peer Edits
Hi Melissa,

I feel like your article is off to a great start!

Some pointers that I thought of as I was reading were that it seems a little sparse on factual and referenced information. With a topic like "temptation" and the majority of people innately knowing what it is, it's easy to assume that the information is just fact. However, there must be a more solid scientific reason/background for temptation. My suggestion would be to peruse this topic from that angle and cite more sources. Also in the paragraph about "religious usage" the flow from talking about it in a casual like manner to talking about a specific study sounds a bit incongruent. Try taking a look at this.

Outside of small changes I like the way it is going! Great work and good luck!

-MK --Mkburnett4 (talk) 18:58, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi MK,

Thanks MK for your suggestions. Yeah, citing more information is part of the plan. I've found some things, I just need to organize it and include it where it's needed. The paragraph about "religious usuage" I know can definitely use some work from what I've read. I've actually had some difficulties finding research on that part, but I think I've found something and will include it in the final piece. Thanks for your advice and let me know of any other suggestions! Melissa Edwards (talk) 22:55, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Social Psych Peer Reviews
Hi Melissa!

You have some great ideas for proposed changes to this article. I think this topic is very interesting and I'm excited to see how you tie it into social psychology! Temptation, when relating to religion, has numerous meanings I'm sure. Temptation from a non-religious standpoint, however, is not something that I have heard a lot about! I think it would be interesting in the context of different cultures, as many cultures define what is "good" or "bad" differently, thus having different ideas of what temptation might look like. Whichever way you take this article will be very informative. Keep up the good work!

Cimone.safilian (talk) 03:01, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Cimone,

Thanks for your input! Yes I have found many different definitions for temptation in relation to religion and non-religion. I had not thought about looking at it from different cultural perspectives. I'm going to look into that and hopefully find enough information to support that. Thanks for that idea, I really appreciate it. Melissa Edwards (talk) 15:29, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Experiences cannot "benefit"
This needs to be changed: "and the effects of it found there were benefits to their experiences."

The writer means something else, and should say whatever that is. 24.239.177.111 (talk) 08:21, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Temptation is neither desire nor urge

 * Temptation is not the desire for something nor is it an urge to acquire/achieve that something; it is the opportunity to satisfy a desire. If, having eaten a meal, I desire a second serving of pie, I cannot be tempted to have a second slice unless there is a second slice to be had. A host or hostess cannot meaningfully say "Can I tempt you with some more pie?" unless they have pie to proffer in response to an affirmative. They are not offering desire, they are offering the means to satisfy a desire (if such a desire is present). Having been offered the pie, the urge to have the pie is not the temptation; the urge is a response to the possibility of the underlying desire being satisfied. That possibility, that opportunity, is the temptation. The urge is subsequent to the opportunity; it is the conversion of the desire (passive, potential) into a motivational force (dynamic, action-initiating) - and one of the initial steps towards succumbing to the temptation.
 * To be tempted is double-faceted. Firstly, it is being presented with an opportunity to satisfy a desire, as per the above. For example, being offered a second slice of pie is to be tempted to consume more but only if there is a desire (otherwise it's a case of "It's nice of you to offer but I'm not tempted"). Secondly, it is to perceive the opportunity and to experience an urge to act upon it - "It's nice of you to offer; I'm tempted" - and also to consider taking up the offer. If there's no separation between the offer (the temptation) and the acceptance then there's an absence of this second-stage being tempted. This second stage of being tempted is where a temptation can be resisted (successfully or otherwise); the first stage is where the temptation can be refuted. 79.79.253.135 (talk) 17:21, 22 May 2018 (UTC)