Talk:Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny/Archive 1

I think a few articles with the same information but slightly different title should be merged to this one, as it is the proper name for the film -- Corey.spring 00:07, August 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * Just merged The Pick of Destiny with this one... --Johnnyw 23:26, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

Stolen Plot Summary
The plot summary written in this section is a barely paraphrased copy of the Ain't It Cool News review of the movie (viewable here. Yes, it does "source" the article, but it is not usually common Wikipedia practice to have such a blatant ripoff.

Or maybe I'm just being anal. Thoughts? jopari


 * No, you’re not being anal. It’s a copyright violation, whether cited or not. Thanks for pointing it out. It’s a shame no one noticed it sooner. --Rob Kennedy 07:11, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Luckily I submitted my own plot summary, which, though rather lengthy, is original. Too bad it wasn't left on the wiki-page... AceOHearts 13:02, 29 November 2006 (UTC)AceOHearts

Release Date
Just a bit confused about the release date, article says 14th Nov but infobox says 22nd. Can anyone clear this up? Thanks EJaY 19:58, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

The album is released November 14, the movie starts November 17, but us here in Australia have to wait until the 27th DAMN MY LOCATION hope that helps Tenacious Nick 21:50 25 October 2006
 * Damn, in Perth the cinemas have it scheduled for January! Metao 02:33, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Soundtrack track listing
I think the track listing for the soundtracks should not be in this article since it is already in the soundtrack's article, which is linked on this page. What are others opinions on the matter? Joltman 17:38, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I was hoping that they played the song "Tribute", i think this would have fitted well into the storyline, especially at the end where they defeated the devil, and couldnt remember the "greatest song in the world", it would have been a very nice ending, it was disappointing it never happened though! :( Anonymous, 18:05, 21 February 2007 (GMT)

Sasquatch reference
The reference to Sasquatch is not from the Spider-Man song. There are many different versions of their Spider-Man cover in which Spider-Man faces off against various people (depending on what version you hear). Furthermore, Tenacious D has a song about Sasquatch himself and is even featured in the episode of their television series entitled Death of a Dream. Carface 23:13, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Trivia?
An interesting point that could be included in the article under trivia or some other title is that the devil during his solo in the rockoff uses a guitar that is notably similar to Dimebag Darrels ML Dean, its got the the same shape, lightning bolts and everything. Im not going to do it since having one little point isnt worth (IMO) making a whole header in the article. \m/ The Ravager 17:41, 28 November 2006 (UTC) At the beginning a younger Jack Black is shown in Kickapoo where as in reality it should have been a younger Kage because he was born in Kickapoo

The scene in which JB is on the park bench and is attacked by the mysterious masked clowns is a reference to A Clockwork Orange.

I believe the statement that this is only the second movie to have meatloaf in it needs removed. If you check his imdb page, you can see that he has participated in several other works. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.226.209.134 (talk) 08:39, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Why the movie failed
1.) Up against Borat 2.) It sucked. 3.) Jack Black isn't funny as his fans think he is. 24.60.163.16 03:05, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Congrats, Loser. No one cares what you think. The movie was fine from a general view.
 * It's typical for a JB fan to think that way. Most audiences thought the movie sucked. Thus it bombed. Bong of destiny indeed. 24.60.163.16 16:58, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Indeed, you've given three reasons as to why YOU think the movie "failed". Remember, if you can, this is an encyclopedia, and is only interested in FACTS or what industry experts have to say about the film. You have given us neither. PowderedToastMan 03:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Who cares what industry experts have to say about the film? What gives thier opinions priviledge? The movie has failed with audiences. It a bomb that fizzled when it flopped. 24.60.163.16 16:58, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

"1.) Up against Borat 2.) It sucked. 3.) Jack Black isn't funny as his fans think he is."

someone sure thinks highly of THEIR opinion huh?

anyway? can we really say they DEFEATED the devil? I mean he was going to take K.G. back to Hell but J.B. deflected his blow, I don't think their jam was as good but I think that was the point.


 * Eh, this will probably become a cult hit anyway. Schizmatic 23:16, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Like Tron? 24.60.163.16 16:58, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Someone's missing the point of the talk pages. Did he really come here thinking we'd devote a section to how he thought the movie "sucked" in an encyclopedic article, or did he just want to start a fight?--Agent Aquamarine 23:37, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Here is why it failed!

Most people i've talked to said that the preview was lame (i agree, it wasn't funny). Based on that, many people avoided seeing it. They shouldn't have because it was actually pretty funny!

My personal opinion of why people think poorly of this film is because so much of it is sung that you need to be attuned to the lyrics of Tenacious D to get the full benefit of the film. Id rather watch this again than borat.--Pypex 23:22, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Opinions, no matter how objective one can bend them to be, don't help matters. The viable reasons for poor performance do seem to hinge on its stiff competition (Borat, then again, that could be said for any other movie opening that weekend, etc.) and disappointing word-of-mouth/printed reviews but the latter would need evidence to support the notion that most people reading unfavourable reviews had chosen to not see it based solely on what they read. All things aside, eliminating the reasons and rephrasing that section of the article until some cited proof can turn up might be a route to consider, despite the obvious lead-in here by a troll looking to spark such a debate. 71.156.85.133 01:56, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

guys stop arguing everyone has their own opinion i know wew can all say that this movie was retarted and stupid and thats why we love many people like that knid of comedy that my eb theier sense of humor and then againf or many people it isnt we should all just respect each others opinions —Preceding unsigned comment added by Super Mario Bro (talk • contribs)

While I enjoyed the movie as a whole, there were definately some issues with the movie. The fact the movie will be far less funny for those who are not fans of Tenacious D is a good start. A majority of the parts I liked the most were the parts that gave insight to the inspiration of their album Tenacious D.(which chronologically from the stand point of the movie has not been released yet) The main problem I had with the movie came mostly in the second half. The songs played in the movie are often far more "epic" than the cinema that went along with them. The 2nd half of the movie feels like it is just stringing together poorly made music videos, despite the songs being far more interesting than what is being shown in the movie. All in all though the fact the movie is aimed specifically at Tenacious D fans definately hurt the films ability to reach out to other audiences.

Bad Link
Demons and Wizards leads to the wrong link. You want the Uriah Heep album not the Blind Guardian/Iced Earth side project.

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the . Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

PAGE MOVED to Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny per discussion below. -GTBacchus(talk) 19:21, 10 March 2007 (UTC) Tenacious D: The Pick of Destiny → Tenacious D in: The Pick of Destiny — Article name was changed based on an incorrect article. Milchama 18:34, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Survey
Add "# Support" or "# Oppose" on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~. Please remember that this survey is not a vote, and please provide an explanation for your recommendation.

Survey - in support of the move

 * 1) Support The correct name has "in" in the title. TJ Spyke 00:09, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Survey - in opposition to the move

 * 1) Oppose due to incorrect punctuation. The current name is wrong, but so is the proposal. There's no colon in the title, the correct title is Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny. If you want to move to that correct version (without punctuation) then I support that. Saikokira 03:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Discussion
Add any additional comments
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Cleaned up whole article
I recently cleaned up whole article – discuss changes here -- Spe bi 09:11, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I also just cleaned up the whole article's grammar and word choice though I'm still finding other errors. Sfrostee 1 May 2007

More detail in earlier work references?
I noticed quite a few references to songs from their first album and TV Show, and was wondering, while this article lists the songs referenced, it doesnt explain how...perhaps they should? ItsNotLupus 04:54, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect trivia
The trivia point "When Master Exploder is played it had been pre-recorded so the use of two guitars not possible to play were used (Legs, 3 Necked Axe)." is incorrect. The song was unquestionably recorded seperately (they change clothes 3 or 4 times), and the 6 han. ded solo would indeed be impossible for a single person to play. However, the double guitar dubbed 'Legs' is not impossible to play. The statement is therefore false. DrAvery 20:08, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Trivia section delete
The section should be deleted because it does not follow WP:TRIV; most of the content in the section lately seems to be very random, and not necessary for the reader, lots of it is from unreliable resources and it most definitely should be integrated into other parts of the article wher it makes sense. -- Spe bi 00:13, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Support:

 * 1) Strong Support - per above reasons. -- Spe  bi 00:13, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


 * 1) Strong Support Sfrostee 1 May 2007

Oppose:

 * 1) Strong Oppose - I have never seen the point of that guideline. Do you want to be the ultimate source of nearly useless knowledge or not? --Kaizer13 10:02, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

The Terms of the Rock-Off
I fixed a mistake in the plot section. The original text said that Satan announced that KJ would be his sex slave if the band lost the rock-off, but in the movie Jack is the one to create this term, after Satan asks what he'll get for defeating them.

Good info
This page has to good stuff about the cast of POD, and some stuff on the actor's gang. Tenacious D Fan (talk) 15:55, 30 June 2007 (UTC)