Talk:Tensegrity (Castaneda)

Dangerous Cult?
This is scary, does anyone here think that current Tensegrity people might be suicidal? As in ritual suicide. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.113.46.155 (talk) 19:41, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't see how this affects the article in question here. From what I understand, wikipedia's NPOV policy aims to simply state different sides or arguments rather than argue for one particular perspective. With that being said I think this article needs some work in this regard. Dejitarob (talk) 15:41, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Disuputed
"According to the ancient sorcerers of Mexico" - which were Castaneda's invention. Doesn't mean that the technique does not work (meditation is well studied scientifically now, and its effects are generally robustly confirmed). But the backstory is probably invented. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 07:15, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

tensegrity fact or fiction
Firstly to have power one needs to know the Chi movements. These are movements that cause a cross flow of the body's natural flow such that chi/electical bioenergy is generated. e.g. rotation of palms facing each other approximately 2 inches apart will initiate reergisation. Power levels can be ascertained when the the palms begin to exhibit effects similar to magnets repelling each other.

Secondly unless one has this power it cannot be directed outwards no matter what movements one makes. i.e one has to be a man of power as Don Juan symbolically is. Flow outwards can be in the form of chi healing energies as in the spiritualist movement.

Lastly taking one's own life is the last thing one should contemplate. Why? Simply stated we are animals and an animal would rather rip it own paw off when trapped than die. Survival is inbred in our anima,our animal selves. Secondly we come back to the physical in circumstances similar to those that we left so why go through the same shit again. Maha ete sore-o. Boku-wa sore-o omowa-nai.

Tensegrity Legal issues. Tensegrity No Longer Copyrighted?
I think this should be incorporated into the article. It is significant.

In rough summary:

''Cleargreen was sued by Castaneda's "granddaughter," actually a mistress and member of the inner circle. Cleargreen has countersued. So much for being super spirchul...

''The good and bad news is in the response to the counterclaim. They are claiming anyone can use the tensegrity nonsense under Fair Use. If the court accepts it, it could potentially drive Cleargreen out of business or at least cut their profit margin. The bad news is there'd be dozens of little frauds out there added to the mix.

I believe the courts has ruled againts Cleargreen. The reasons being:

''1) In condensed form Aerin and Miles "won" because they claimed that Tensegrity movements were created by "Ancient Shamans from the Mexican Jungles".  (yes that is what was said)   They say they were NOT created by Carlos Castaneda  and they point out that this is evidenced and supported by numerous statements by Castaneda himself and by Cleargreen.

2) Then continuing their legal argument Aerin and Miles (their attorneys) used the "Yoga" defense that we have discussed here..   arguing very competently that Tensegrity Movements were not choreographed works. .. and that they were not copyrightable as exercises or movements since exercises and movements are not copyrightable. And that was strike two.

3) Then they showed that Cleargreen and Laugan were not the proper recipients or owners of any of Castaneda's copyrights. They had never been transferred from Castaneda to Laugan or Cleargreen. Strike three!''

Read more (source): http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1712.msg30617#msg30617#ixzz1rG1zLmSE

Any takers for incorporating it into the main arrticle? None.

Henry123ifa (talk) 11:22, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Don Juan
Make up your mind, editor. It's either Don Juan (my choice) or don Juan but the capitalization should be consistent. 69.125.134.86 (talk) 14:57, 27 April 2013 (UTC)