Talk:Tephra: The Steampunk RPG

Controversy Section
Just a head's up: a forum post at RPG Geek does NOT count as a reliable source. To add something negative like controversy, you need something more substantive. (Negative stuff tends to have a greater burden of proof on it.) Look at WP:RS for a guideline of what to use. Thanks! BloodmoonIvy (talk) 19:57, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Rewrite time! The use of the KS as a primary source limits how this can be listed. Again, RPG Geek is NOT a reliable source and therefore can't be used here. It's not reliable enough to label Tephra fraudulent, for example. At best, one or two sentences is probably going to be all the weight this gets. "The Tephra Kickstarter campaign was a success by raising funds at a level of $22,821 on their $1,000 project goal on February 4, 2012." This is a factual sentence, backed by the primary source. No issues (I eliminated "smash" since that's not appropriate language). "As of March 2014, the rewards of the Kickstarter have not been fully completed, such as backer listing and international shipments." Again, neutral and factual, supported by the posts to the website made by Cracked Monocle. BloodmoonIvy (talk) 02:45, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

This page has now been protected as per request by myself due to the edit warring which has been occurring over this 'controversy' Thєíríshwαrdєn  - írísh αnd prσud  20:57, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I've tried to get the user doing it to post here and discuss, but I've been rebuffed every time. Hopefully this will stop when the protection expires. BloodmoonIvy (talk) 21:15, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Affirmative, they've been editing from that IP, so they should be made to discuss this. Thєíríshwαrdєn  - írísh αnd prσud  22:24, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Are you saying the two users have the same IP? I opened up a sock puppet investigation just in case. BloodmoonIvy (talk) 22:33, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
 * No,one user is. However, it could be a case that they forgot to login however as there are 2 accounts I endorse a sock puppet investigation. The IP was doing good, I thought it was adding the stuff back on, apologies.  Thєíríshwαrdєn  - írísh αnd prσud  08:18, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm pretty sure the IP was unrelated. I meant the two named users who were doing the same thing. BloodmoonIvy (talk) 19:40, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Company closure
None of my edits were driven by my connection to the company... what was moved was the incorrect information about Companies closer which actually never took play.. this should be removedCestayton (talk) 01:38, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The owners officially announced in public that Cracked Monocle was closed. Now, the owner did come back and restarted things, but it was closed until then. The other matter is that you shouldn't cite sources from a company's site. That's not good practice. (I've honestly been pushing things with using the Kickstarter announcements - I may get faulted for that if an admin reviews this article.) BloodmoonIvy (talk) 09:16, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Parlor LLC.
So, it has recently been announced that Cracked Monocle has now changed their name to Parlor LLC. I've updated the page to reference this, but however, I am beginning to think that Parlor, LLC. should now have their own page. They are also now in development of a new RPG called Retroscape that is also in an open-beta test. So, with multiple products now, I personally feel that a page for Parlor, LLC. should be created and all of the company history information from this page should be moved over to it and clear this page for more relevant information about Tephra itself. That company history stuff just seems out of place, if nothing else, on a page about a game. Perhaps, at one time, with both the company and Tephra being nearly the same thing, it was fine, but now, this has become something different. Then, perhaps, we can get rid of that header about "close connection" can also be removed from the page.

I dunno, just something to think about. If I don't get any replies here over the next few days, I'll work on doing this, but I am not good at doing some of this stuff. I can get it started for others to help on, if necessary. Eric42 (talk) 05:52, 4 August 2017 (UTC)