Talk:Texas Syndicate

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According to the "Gangland" (History Channel) episode about the TS, shown last night (5/2/08), they do allow Caucasian members (although the show stated that they had only allowed 4, I believe. They extensively interviewed a TS member who was clearly white. I believe his name was James D'Arby). But they will not even consider admitting any member (again, according to "Gangland") who is in any way associated with a black, much less admit blacks. The way this article is worded makes it sound as though the TS allows other ethnic groups to be initiated, but excluding whites, when it is apparently the case that whites are the only other ethnic group ever allowed to join (though, again, very rarely). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.207.230.102 (talk) 20:56, 3 May 2008‎

The TS and the MM and NF
texas and california are along way from each other and even the mexicans are different if you really look into it. i think this is the same issue with the north siders and the south siders in cali. what i dont get is the way they defend their geographical area heritage and they themselves alienate themselves just like with the NF, MM and TS. that vaeto loucko in the doucumentary put in so much work basically his whole life and got bitten by the same monster he created. the same thing with the MM and some of its members like in the movie american me and the resently defected member rene boxer. this problem just doesnt happen in prisons and jails it is more severe and intense in there because these guys are locked up. this also happens at work and we just have to get along with it in order to make it out at the end of the day. i wonder if their will ever be a central california prison gang that is neither from the north or the south just like 18 street or the crazy ass MS (Maras) or maravilla its just crazy. the reality is that america is still racist and to some way it kind of will be and this way peace is kept balanced to a healthy level. i dont know about the latin kings and whatever they have on the east and prisons but it seems that it works a little different overhere. can you feel me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ptolemy vega (talk • contribs) 20:43, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Possible copyright violation
This page appears to have been lifted pretty much verbatim from the following website: http://www.insideprison.com/prison_gang_profile_TS.asp

I don't know enough about the subject to edit; can someone with more knowledge do so?

LVehko (talk) 07:39, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Sidebar of Schiller
The sidebar of the 2011 Schiller article says: "FACTS ABOUT THE TEXAS SYNDICATE The Syndicate is the original prison gang in Texas Started in 1970s in California prison system by incarcerated Texans Among 12 gangs classified as a Security Threat Group by TDCJ. Cells in all major Texas cities Murders of members approved by majority vote Membership is for life; quitting is a death sentence No main leader; each city and prison has a chairman " Usually Chron articles don't archive the sidebars, so I have this posted so people know what the sidebar says.

Image sidebars: WhisperToMe (talk) 15:58, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 1: "Convicted killer Mike Mendoza Jr. shows his only "free-world" tattoo - "TS" for Texas Syndicate - in an interview."
 * 2: "Arnold Darby, one of the few white men ever in Texas Syndicate, says members kept a lower profile in his day. At 62, he has two murder convictions and is serving time in the Goree Unit."

Florida Department of Corrections source
I've removed this source published by the Florida Department of Corrections. While it's common to include "rivals" and Allies" in infoboxes, this information was poorly supported, and the source included some questionable details. The source listed the Symbionese Liberation Army and Weather Underground as "allies". Both of these tiny groups dissolved in the mid 1970s, so this is obviously extremely dated and, frankly, bizarre for several reasons. Without something more substantial and current, this is filler which raises far more questions than it answers. Lacking a higher-quality source, it is better to leave these field blank than to include inaccurate information. Grayfell (talk) 01:28, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't necessarily disagree, but trying to remove a RS because there is some outdated info is a slippery slope. Niteshift36 (talk) 17:08, 24 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I should clarify that there are several gangs listed by the source, and the Weather Underground and SLA are listed as allies of the Black Guerrilla Family, not the Texas Syndicate.
 * I don't agree this is a slippery slope. There is no new precedent being set here. This is an undated (but presumably internet-age source) which presents extremely outdated, context-free information about a broad range different gangs. This, to me suggests that it's not reliable for this specific information in this specific context. It may be usable in other contexts, but that would have to be discussed on its own merits, same as always. If you want to make the case for this source, do it. Grayfell (talk) 21:07, 24 May 2018 (UTC)