Talk:Thames Ditton

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"formal tone" What can we do to ensure a formal tone..? --Lisa halley 19:57, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

THAMES DITTON ISLAND: The Island, one of three, is 350 yards long and has 47 houses and a population of around 100. On the second largest, Boyle Farm Island, is a single house, home to just one family. Swan Island, between the two, is the smallest. On it was once the ferryman's hut, recently restored by the present owner, in which the original incumbent must have passed a meagre life, taking people across the main stream and to and from the Island, for a small fee at all times of the day and night.

THE BRIDGE: The bridge is the main life line for the islanders, without it life could become intolerable in the winter. The bridge was constructed in 1935, it is built of steel which has advantages and disadvantages over iron. It is stronger but needs more painting. The bridge is a suspension type, with wooden steps over an iron frame leading up to them. On the land side of the bridge there is a toll gate. Residents have a key to open the gate, casual visitors and tradesmen have to pay 10p by placing their money in the opening mechanism.

Milk marketing board
The milk marketing board was (still is?) head quartered in Thames Ditton. It seems the article should mention this. I don't have sources, otherwise would have added it myself. Apdevries 19:01, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
 * The MMB disappeared some 5-10 years ago, and was replaced by an estate of expensive houses.Gavin Wilson 20:34, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Post Box Locations
Just when you think you've seen it all on Wikipedia - a section devoted to listing the various post boxes in Thames Ditton (with their locations). Actually, a list of post boxes is a good idea, if I'm ever driving through Thames Ditton and have a sudden need to post a letter, I could log on to Wikipedia and find this vital information.

Whoever thinks this belongs in an encyclopedia should also compile a list of the locatons of telephone boxes, bus stops, zebra crossings, litter bins, parking meters, etc, etc.

-- I totally agree —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.148.198.156 (talk) 09:54, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Boundaries of TD
The description in the opening paragraphs that:
 * The village takes the approximate shape of a triangle, bounded by the Hampton Court Way to the west, and the old Portsmouth Road to the south and east.

is untrue, and quite upsetting to the residents of Thorkhill Road, the Rushett area etc, all of which are to the south of the Portsmouth Road yet still squarely part of TD. Thegn 19:03, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I think that paragraph should be removed --Lisa halley 18:37, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Tone
I've removed the tone tag and general edited the contents. I hope it's OK with everyone. It would be nice to have a good picture of the village to put at the top. I don't know how to enlarge the speakers picture. It looks fairly pathetic at the moment. I am concerned that there are no references for Celestion. SuzanneKn 19:25, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Update
I've supplied a photo; and a ref for Rola Celestion; and also the MMB. Also added info on the Burton Foundry and on Willans and Robinson. Monority (talk) 22:14, 27 August 2009 (UTC) Monority (K).
 * Good work Motmit (talk) 00:58, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

..and a bit more
I've checked Domesday's ref to Ditone being in Kingston Hundred and also checked the Domesday entry for Weston (Green) in Elmbridge Hundred, then amending the text concerning the possible confusion. I've been reading a history of Kingston, which suffered a chequered past and was frequently pillaged or despoiled by troops of various fighting factions billeted there. In the 1800s it descended into general iniquity! Just 3.5 miles away, Thames Ditton seems to have been too insignificant to be affected by any of that. However, along with its belonging to Kingston Hundred, TD's legal (Kingston Assizes and quarter sessions) and police structures (including the Met police 1840-2000), the church (pre-Domesday to 1769), and later the care of the poor (after 1834) along with metropolitan water supplies place the village administratively with Kingston for the most part. After 1769 Thames Ditton became a separate parish incorporating Long Ditton, Hinchley Wood, Weston Green and Claygate (which last split off to form a further parish in 1841. As much petty administration, inlcuding local roads, health, education and elementary justice, was centred on parish structures this must also have marked a divergence from Kingston administration. It is only after 1894 (Local Government Act) that we find TD emerging under Esher/Surrey administration, where Weston Green had always been.  At least two attempts since by the Royal Borough to reabsorb the Dittons have been rejected (which after WW2 took a good deal of lobbying and presenting of a case to the Boundaries Commission).

Does anyone have material to indicate whether the river was fordable at Thames Ditton in the 1500s, or whether ferries were the only means of crossing at that time? Monority (talk) 08:21, 3 September 2009 (UTC)Monority
 * At that time the river here was tidal so it may have been possible to cross at low tide. The Thames Ditton Island article suggests so - it also points out that the islands were considered as belonging to the Middlesex side. However it is all poorly referenced. Motmit (talk) 08:34, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Boyle Farm and other buildings
We must add something on Boyle Farm / Home of Compassion! Also on the two conservation areas and perhaps some other significant buildings. I'll get round to it unless someone else wnats to have a go first... Monority (talk) 09:09, 3 September 2009 (UTC)Monority

More on Hundreds
I've now tracked down refs in the Eynsham Cartulary and Thames Ditton, the boundaries of which are there described, was together with land in Esher bequeathed to Aethelmaer. Salter's footnotes to his translation of the cartulary in 1907 assert that Thames Ditton was in Elmbridge Hundred, and though he gives no reference for that assertion it seems quite possible that in Eynsham days, it was. However, by Domesday it is in Kingston Hundred along with Long Ditton and 'Ember' - the latter two both 'held by Picot from Richard'.

So I've amended the early history para again.... Monority (talk) 11:16, 4 September 2009 (UTC) Monority

Corbett excised
I've cut out the reference to Sir Julian Stafford Corbett (naval strategist and historian) that someone had inserted. According to the Dictionary of National Biography he wasn't born nor did he die in TD. Corbett, Sir Julian Stafford (1854–1922), naval historian, the second son of Charles Joseph Corbett, architect and property developer, and his wife, Elizabeth, née Byrne, was born on 12 November 1854 at Walcot House, Kennington Road, Lambeth, London. He died at Manor Farm, Stopham, Pulborough, Sussex, on 21 September 1922 —Preceding  Monority (talk • contribs) 13:26, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Corbett reinstated
I've reinstated Corbett as, while he wasn't born nor did he die in TD, his parents owned Imber Court and it is probable he spent his formative youth years there. Indeed, it seems he did not marry before he was 45 (in 1899) so he could well have been attached to Imber Court until then - the date the house was sold six years after his mother Elizabeth's death. Any more details of his connections to TD would be welcome.

Andy White (drummer)
Andy White, a session drummer notable for replacing Ringo Starr for The Beatles first recording session at Abbey Road studios on 11 September 1962, was at that time a resident of Thames Ditton living at 21 Thorkhill Gardens. Perhaps the article could do with a bit of rock and rolling. I lived in TD for a while - beautiful. Patthedog (talk) 10:37, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

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