Talk:The Adventures of Tom Sawyer

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For the record, I never raced bugs in class, tried to impress girls by fighting, or got lost in caves. Maybe the "every boy can relate to" part is POV? --Dante Alighieri 22:02 Dec 4, 2002 (UTC)

Ahem, anyways I came here to ask why no one added the sattire in here; one of the main things Samuel Langhorne Clemens(a.k.a. Mark Twain) did was sattire and ridicule the society of the day. One example and a rather minor one (I'm adding it because it is prehaps the most obvious) includes when Mark Twain talks about the scripture ticket system, when a German boy memorizes three thousand lines of scripture, but is rendered little more than an idiot after that. It is an obvious sattire on the memonic education system, because the kid memorized but probably did not understand; or simply had devoted so much of his brain to learning these that he lacked the capacity for anything else. A less obvious one is at the end of chapter two, when the author is reflecting about a great law of human action. (He had discovered a...then they would resign.) Here he is sattiring the worth of relatively equivilant things when you add money, which, incidentally, can be used for more things, which are also relatively equal until you factor money into the equation. The point being, I think someone with better composition skills than I should factor in examples of Mark Twain's sattires into the page, and here were some starters.

-anon

That is something rather notable; if you look around the only (and distant) connection with satire is under the satire article, where it (briefly) notes that Mark Twain was the most notable 19th century satirist. In fact, this article needs cleaning, so tomorrow I'll see to a spot of revision.

-anon

People must also note, that Mark Twain wrote an introduction at the beginning of the book to explain why he used the N-word and other satires, because of the controversy over letting children and high school students be exposed to that kind of stereo-typing and language. His argument was a fairly good one. He said that the reason for adding in the language, instead of using a more "appropriate" choice of words, was to give an example of how people use to completely discriminate toward other races, genders, and nationalities. It is a reminder of our past and how we used to, and still sometimes do, act. As the philosopher George Santayana said "Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it."

-Pandalover292 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pandalover292 (talk • contribs) 17:17, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

anybody know how to do the stub thingy? Evil Deep Blue 00:41, 2 February 2006 (UTC) == == ==''


 * Stubbed, although I'm shocked it hadn't been done yet. I'm also convinced that the list of different online editions (which takes up more page space than the main article at the moment!) is in need of significant pruning, although all I felt up to was deleting a duplicate Project Gutenberg listing. Also, I changed the info box as best as I could to reflect the first edition;  I'm assuming with all the variant versions a public domain version can go through, we want to go with the original printing.  --Enwilson 14:04, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Agreed with the original printing, I added a link to a facsimile of 1st edition which should cover all citations. Since we go with the original printing: - I have taken out the ISBN to another print in the infobox. - Perhaps use the bookcover as a caption instead of the current frontispiece? The frontispiece is nicer, but the choice seems rather subjective to me. Magafuzula (talk) 13:05, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

plot?
where the heck is the plot? samphex 01:52, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Agree, this article desperately needs a plot summary. Surely every US schoolchild writes one?  C'mon folks, dig out your old essay book and put that B+ to some use. 112.118.142.168 (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * You two are hilarious. "Someone who isn't me: do this thing that I think is important but not important enough for me to do." I hope you both find the will and energy to be proactive in your judgments. It's the secret to a happy life.


 * I've added a plot summary from SparkNotes. Enjoy. --98.225.137.20 (talk) 14:30, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Significance
This section of the article is sloppy and confusing. In the middle of the second paragraph there's something about a photograph, and then something about being "cool." I don't get it.Ramseyman (talk) 20:42, 28 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I agree. I also think that the second paragraph needs to be restructured. Adding examples from the text that actually reflect and engage with the theme of boyhood would be helpful if that's the argument scholars are making. Additionally, there needs to be a source cited for this thematic interpretation.
 * Immenseseagull (talk) 19:01, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Merge
Into this article if anywhere not into Tom Sawyer. This is the book which is the literary item. The article could do with plenty of work.! :: Kevinalewis  :  (Talk Page) / (Desk)  11:09, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Merge is a very poor idea. Tom Sawyer appears in multiple books -- not just this one -- and is a major character in American Literature.  This book, however, is also incredibly important in American Literature, and suggesting to merge it into an article on the character is a joke. --JayHenry 22:42, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Themes
The only major theme is... Friendship and Loyalty?

Is that all? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dan Tien Dao (talk • contribs) 18:40, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I deleted it temporarily. It was far too simplistic and I hope that somebody will come along and post a somewhat decent "theme" paragraph. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.240.190.20 (talk) 03:17, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Link to Wikisource
Could someone change the link to Wikisource in the external links section to this template: by typing. Thank you.--99.244.66.12 (talk) 23:43, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Never mind, I'll do it.--99.244.66.12 (talk) 23:44, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Plot Summary Source
The entire plot summary is taken verbatim from the Sparknotes summary page. http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/tomsawyer/summary.html This is not a good thing. But at the very least, we have to source it. --RabidMonkeysEatGrass 15:35, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Correct, the Wikipedia plot summary was introduced somewhere in 2008, however the Sparknotes' version originates in 2001: http://web.archive.org/web/20011202095023/http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/tomsawyer/summary.html Just sourcing is not an option, since Sparknotes has a copyright notice, and it has been copied literally Magafuzula (talk) 16:24, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Other adaptations
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Sawyer_(song)"

...EXPOSITION.....
 * Settings


 * Situation/Climate:

Tom Sawyer,Aunt Polly, Sid sawyer,Cousin Mary, Huckleberry Fin,Becky thatcher,Mr.dobbins,Jeff thatcher,Jim ,Ben rogers,Joe harper,Injun joe, Muff potter,Muff potter,Docter robiihisin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.232.66.65 (talk) 02:37, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Characters

Connections with Southern Gothic Genre?
I read the book as an adult after reading Harper Lee's to Kill a Mocking Bird, which is classed as a southern gothic. I was wondering if The Adventures of Tom Sawyer should be seen as belonging to this group as well? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.134.204 (talk) 20:14, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Sequel
Shouldn't the sequel be Adventures of Huckleberry Finn? The summary on this page says "the book leaves off where Adventures of Huckleberry Finn begins" and the Huckleberry Finn article page says "it is a sequel to The Adventures of Tom Sawyer". I've never read the book, so I can't really determine if the infobox should at least LIST Adventures of Huckleberry Finn as a sequel. I mean, is A Tramp Abroad (nonfiction) really the sequel to a fiction book? I'm assuming here that the "followed by" field in the infobox means sequels and not books in publishing order or anything else. 5Celcious (talk) 03:00, 16 April 2012 (UTC)