Talk:The Algorithm (Filter album)

Request to retitle the article "They Got Us Right Where They Want Us" 16 June 2021
Per Richard Patrick's recent interview on the Legends and Masters Show in June 2021 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWXZ2bCOXS8) the final title of the album will be "They Got Us Right Where They Want Us", not "Merica". This is word direct from the guy who is creating the album.
 * Are there any more reliable sources reporting on this besides this obscure YouTube channel? That's not the type of source Wikipedia finds acceptable for use. Sergecross73   msg me  03:08, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 30 May 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Not moved. Consensus to keep the dab page as a base name. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  19:48, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

– no other article named Murica Jax 0677 (talk) 20:00, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Murica (album) → Murica
 * Murica → ?
 * Note: Murica now titles a dab page with content and so it must also be dispositioned. If this request is granted, then Murica may be moved to Murica (disambiguation) and tagged with One other topic in accordance with WP:ONEOTHER, or it may be deleted to make way for the first proposed page move.  P.I. Ellsworth   ed.  put'r there 04:46, 31 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Support per nomination. This redirect has been to WP:RfD in 2014 in 2015 and in 2016. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:11, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment note that 'Murica also exists. 162 etc. (talk) 22:52, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * As the result of yet another RfD discussion, this one in 2018. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 23:00, 30 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose BUT create a disambiguation page at the basename, listing the album (Murica (album)) and the slang term for the U.S. ('Murica). And Murcia woild be listed in a "See also" section. Paintspot Infez (talk) 23:06, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not normally create main title headers for words that redirect to Wiktionary and the redirect 'Murica seems to exist simply because there was no consensus at the 2018 RfD for its deletion. As for the potential listing of Murcia under "See also", it has the perception of a spoonerism — if Paris were to be listed under "See also" at the Prais disambiguation page. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 23:43, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I must have corrected dozens if not hundreds of one-letter or letter-reversal misspellings. Likely misspellings should definitely be included as see-alsos on DAB pages. I found one instance of "Prais" for "Paris", and two of "prais" for "praise". DAB page Prais (which, incidentally, contained the word "statiistical") linked to neither Prai nor Praise (disambiguation); and Prais, the Prai people, was on neither Prai nor Prais. Narky Blert (talk) 08:01, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I found and corrected 6 instances of "Murica" for "Murcia", and 1 for "America" (in an official name, referring to Latin America, so no doubt). A DAB page Murica should see-also to Murcia (disambiguation). Narky Blert (talk) 08:30, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Although the article at 'Murica doesn't currently have any content, it could be expanded. It's tricky to find good reliable sources for this topic,  but this from Kerrang!, this from the Orange County Register and this from Time shows that there's something there.  It's unlikely that the album is a primary topic. 162 etc. (talk) 05:21, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Support the creation of a DAB at base name, I do think the slang term for America is used enough that it's page should exist.--Ortizesp (talk) 00:48, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Album article creator here. I'm mostly neutral. I just assumed that the album wasn't the primary topic (how could it be? It's clearly named after the concept) so I created it at the "(album)" location. Sergecross73   msg me  01:13, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Murica should redirect to American nationalism Red   Slash  21:51, 1 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Note There is a related current discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Disambiguation. Pam  D  21:53, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Create DAB page at basename. A Google search suggests that there's enough to support an article on the concept of 'Murica. Narky Blert (talk) 08:35, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Release date?
Well 2021 is nearly over so when is this album to be released? Miranda lass (talk) 19:13, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I dont believe it's been announced. COVID has left countless albums in limbo like this, especially with rock bands, which often more heavily rely on touring to make money. Sergecross73   msg me  19:15, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

2022 sources

 * https://blabbermouth.net/news/richard-patrick-to-re-team-with-producer-ben-grosse-for-new-filter-music Sergecross73   msg me  03:09, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
 * https://www.ghostcultmag.com/filter-has-thirty-songs-written-for-their-upcoming-new-album/ Sergecross73   msg me  03:10, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
 * https://vwmusicrocks.com/an-interview-with-richard-patrick-of-filter/ Sergecross73   msg me  18:02, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * https://blabbermouth.net/news/filter-shares-new-single-for-the-beaten Sergecross73   msg me  21:51, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Filter's recent Facebook posts
On Filter's Facebook page, under one of their posts for their new single, "For the Beaten," either Richard Patrick or his publicist posted that the two 2020 singles ("Thought and Prayers" and "Murica") are not on the upcoming album (slated for a Spring 2023 release), which itself has now also reverted back to it's working title, "They've Got Us Right Where They Want Us, At Each Other's Throats."[1 ] Since it's still just a Facebook comment and not in an actual news article, I'm not making any changes yet, but I suppose it will be happening sooner or later. StuOnThis (talk) 18:44, 17 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Yeah, thanks for that. I've been meaning to update the article - that interview I found above - https://vwmusicrocks.com/an-interview-with-richard-patrick-of-filter/ - also mentions that he's changed the album title back again, so I'm fine with moving that back. I could have sworn I saw an article mention "For the Beaten" being the debut single from the album too, though I'll have to look for that.... Sergecross73   msg me  23:41, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * It's the Blabbermouth article for the new single. StuOnThis (talk) 05:27, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and updated the band and discography pages, not sure how to change the title of this one or if we'd have to make a whole new page now. StuOnThis (talk) 17:04, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
 * No no, definitely don't make a new article. We just need to move the page. I've done so. Sergecross73   msg me  17:28, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

The Algorithm
The name of the album changed yet again: https://blabbermouth.net/news/filters-new-album-will-now-be-called-the-algorithm-says-richard-patrick StuOnThis (talk) 13:14, 22 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Good to get confirmation on this. Based on the other articles already in existence, it looks like the article should probably be moved to The Algorithm (Filter album) then. Sergecross73   msg me  19:50, 22 May 2023 (UTC)