Talk:The Amazing Race 10 contestants

Merge
Although most of the contetants aren't exactly notable, this sounds like a good compromise idea and I would be happy to support it. -- PageantUpdater  •  talk  |  contribs  |  esperanza  20:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Agree--evrik (talk) 22:21, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Such an article fails WP:NOT, namely its provisions against indiscriminate information. The individual race articles already cover the race history of past racers; there's no need for another page that simply repeats information from other sources. For example, the only "notable" post-race accomplishment for David and Mary have been making the rounds on the talk show circuit. That has already been covered in the TAR 10 trivia section. Likewise, Tyler's appearance on CSI:Miami can simply be included in the trivia section of the TAR10 article. There's no need for a separate article to cover that additional piece of information. --Madchester 05:16, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I hadn't investigated the level of information available and simply suggested it as a compromise because I have a vague feeling I have seen something similar for another reality tv show.  --  PageantUpdater  •  talk  |  contribs  |  esperanza  06:17, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I would like to point out that the contestant articles keep popping up, and that there seems to be an obvious desire to include these people. This article, List of Contestants on The Amazing Race, just got created by someone. Also, a well written page, like Amazing Race 5 contestants with individual pages redirected is a good solution. --evrik (talk) 16:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Just because there are such articles popping up, doesn't mean that the topic itself is notable. Again, they need to comply with WP:NOT and meet WP:BIO for notability standards. And for the so-called "popularity" of such articles, like List of Contestants on The Amazing Race, there's only been 10 edits by 4 unique editors and 1 bot over 2+ months.  That itself is a testament to the non-notability of the topic. --Madchester 21:16, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Strongly disagree. Would you merge Jackie Robinson with The Dodgers? Sarah is much more than a part of the Amazing Race, probably my favorite show on network TV. She was an incredibly important figure in the world of athletics prior to the show and that only helped bring awareness to who she is and what she is about. Sarah's accomplishments easily warrant her having a stand alone page, where her participation in The Amazing Race is but a piece of the puzzle. I believe that it would be an incredible disservice to Sarah to marginalize who she is by doing this. --Sean

First, my comment should be tempered by a strong lack of understanding of Wikipedia guidelines and best practices. On the topic of merging Sarah Reinertsen as a sub-topic of Amazing Race participants, I would vote "no." Unlike most reality show participants, who are made famous by the shows they are on, Sarah was an accomplished above the knee amputee Triathelete (and the first woman so afflicted to finish an Ironman) before her AR appearance. I'd argue that her Wikipedia entry could easily be justified without the AR appearance. Her appearances on Nightline / Runner's World cover story precede the TV show. Boberonicus 18:46, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge --evrik (talk) 16:55, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Sarah's fame is largely due to her athletic accomplishments, not her appearance on TAR. She holds five world records for various running distances in the T42 (above knee amputee one leg) class; she is the youngest person to compete in the Paralympics and she is the first woman amputee to complete the Hawaii Ironman triathlon. In addition to the Nightline appearance, she has been on the cover of Triathlete magazine and Runner's World. The Runner's World issue with her on the cover is the most requested issue in the magazine's 40 year history. You could make a great Wikipedia article about her without any TAR content.zyxlsmit 01:52, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Disagree to merge of Sarah Reinertsen with TAR 10 contestants, per Boberonicus and zyxlsmit's comments. RosinDebow 12:05, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Information in each "profile"
In each team "profile", should specific information about their participation in the race be included or just biographical-type information? I ask because I had a strong desire to rever the addition that David & Mary Conley were eliminated because they were "marked for deletion" because I didn't think it was suitable here... but in the end I resisted and thought I'd bring it up here for people to comment on :) -- PageantUpdater  •  talk  |  contribs  |  esperanza  06:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)