Talk:The Amazing Race 11/Archive01

Airing date
I may be wrong, but CBS has only bought the rights to air Season 10 in their fall schedule. CBS is not obligated to air Season 11. Someone may have a source verifying this piece of infromation. --Madchester 23:55, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh. When I reverted it I said if anything it would be Fall 06'. I was thinking I was reverting TAR 10, otherwise ???sox would have been just about right, even though it's not definate Why would they drop TAR. They have gone through 9 seasons. It's brought them pretty good ratings, so why drop it now.? And now that I think of it, why would CBS.com have TAR 11 aplications if they have no intent of showing the actual race. Also, where did you find out this broadcasting rights up to TAR 10, I would really like to see it.TeckWiz 00:17, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I believe CBS has only bought the rights to air the next season of the show for the time being. TAR is confirmed for its fall lineup. Even though TAR 11 is in production, I don't believe that it's been officially picked up by CBS yet. May have to wait a few months to see if CBS adds it to its winter or spring schedule.
 * Networks have in the past shown committment to pick up a show, but may not end up doing so. That new Aquaman TV series is a good example; a pilot has already been created and the show was expected to be picked up by The CW to compliment Smallville in it's lineup.  But The CW backed out last minute and right now the show is looking for a taker on another cable network. The pilot teaser has making the rounds on various websites for the past week or so. --Madchester 00:35, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Confirmed
An anon confirmed that this race is happening. However, there was no source so I took it out. I left a message on his/her talk page asking him for a source. TeckWiz is 12 yrs oldTalk Contribs # of Edits 20:37, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

All star speculation
Again, I would wait until multiple sources confirm this format. TVGasm is a blog, and not the most reliable source of information per WP:RS. --Madchester 06:07, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Agree to wait to add All Star stuff until we have a more firm source of confirmation outside a blog (CBS or WRP would be best), but there are more rumblings at TWOP about who has definitely not racing in the All Star, which seems to suggest that there is something and they weren't invited or didn't want to participate.Masem 16:17, 24 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, i'm not sure about All Star, lets have another look on this report on realitytvworld   And the source is depend other to ensure it is reliable. --Aleen f 1  04:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

There's some more "rumor-confirmed" reports from past racers (w/ blog references, natch) that All Stars is happening, with 4 teams "confirmed" from information provided already. I'm thinking we are at a point that we can say this race is factually been rumored to be an All-Star race from reports from past teams, but provide no details beyond this (that is, until CBS/WRP confirm that TAR11 is an All-star, at which point we refocuse the scope of the article) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Masem (talk • contribs)

The posts by Chip and ClownAl on Return of the Racers pretty much blabs about TAR11 being All-Star, so I think we can move that from rumor to fact. However, the race list is not yet known and shouldn't be added until we get CBS confirmation. (The list I've seen based on Andrew/TAR3 doesn't include CHip/Kim or Tyler/BJ, so it's still very iffy. Masem 05:13, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Note that Al even goes as far as to say if All-Stars is a rumor to tell him. Return of the Racers isn't CBS. It's a blog of former racers that have no info on whats happening in the race except whats aired on TV. For all we know, they could tell people not to blog on RotR to make us think they are running all stars. editor review me!-T e ckWizTalk Contribs# of Edits 14:02, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

First country to visit for TAR 11: Ecuador
Although this season will be an All-Star edition, there's a confirmation that the 1st country that visited for TAR 11 is on Ecuador (in Quito) and the starting point is on Miami, Florida and they'd started the race since Nov. 20, 2006.

And here's a source via reality fan forum: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=b0945609f05e9263b19ee87484b04392&topic=8579.300
 * A forum usually isn't considered a reliable source. Please don't blank people's comments. editor review me!-T e ckWizTalk Contribs# of Edits 02:30, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Title
The producer bill it as "The Amazing Race: All-Stars", should we move it? --Aleen f 1 10:35, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No. We could make it a redirect to this page though. You should always wait. You never know. editor review me!-T e ckWizTalk Contribs# of Edits 12:25, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd go by what was done for Family Editing - the real page is Amazing Race 8, but the 'official' title is noted for reference purposes, and "Amazing Race: Family Edition" redirects to the numerical page. --Masem 16:16, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Exactly. ON CBS.com, it's still referred to as TAR8, but there's the whole sub-title going on too. --Madchester 16:46, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Since we can expect people to call it All Stars, I have made The Amazing Race: All Stars and The Amazing Race All Stars (note colon) redirects to TAR 11. editor review me!-T e ckWizTalk Contribs# of Edits 20:35, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Pre-planning new article content
As this is the first time on the Race that every participant has been on prevously, there are some things we will probably add to the content of the article that will differ from previous seasons; at the very least, we should link to each team's previous season.

We also may want to note such things as the placement they achieved in that season, and perhaps a summary of their performance or racing style. Should we make a separate section for all these points? Should some basic things (like previous season) be in the results table? Any thoughts would be helpful. Radagast 03:53, 24 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I think a summary is too much (as it's subject to opinion). I think by adding one column to the existing table, with race and placement in that race, with any footnotes on changes as necessary (e.g. one rumor has a racer and his/her SO racing but not the original partner), should be sufficient.


 * By 'summary' I was thinking of listing other hard facts of their performance: average leg-by-leg placement, how they used or were affected by Yields, number of times they survived by coming last in non-elimination, Roadblock mix by partner, etc. I agree that racing 'style' is not so quantifiable, and should not appear. Radagast 03:49, 1 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I've crunched the numbers and put up a stats table. Comments? Radagast 22:44, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Remove the number-crunching. It's original research. Unless similar statistics have been published in a reputable source, it's simply fancruft. --Madchester 22:49, 18 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Agreeing here (I've removed the table already) - save for average placement (which I've always found to be a questionable statistic), all the other information can be obtained by following the Season links and looking there. --Masem 22:54, 18 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Alright, fair enough. It's a half-hour's work I have to say goodbye to, but I see the arguments and will stand by the consensus. Radagast 02:40, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Amazing Race: All Stars
The scenes during the credits of TAR10 confirmed the next AR in February 2007 will be All Stars. Could someone fix the article and it's title please? 24.92.43.153 02:24, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

What commercial?
I never saw one after the finale of The Amazing Race 10. (watched on CBS)


 * Given what I saw on message boards, those on the east coast with football overrun did not see this commercial; it definitely aired on the west coast and other parts of the country on a normal airing schedule. I'm hoping someone youtube's it (for reference). However, the commercial, while saying that it is all stars, they show so many teams (more than 12) with ones we know can't be racing, and the spokeman said the racer list is secret anyway.  But it did confirm the Feb07 airing. --Masem 05:16, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


 * And as expected, patience is a virtual. Ad found and linked in from YouTube --Masem 20:53, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

SPOILERS:FInal 5
This board seems to have photo evidence of the final 5 teams. Dont know if it should be added here http://p085.ezboard.com/fsurvivorsucksfrm23.showMessage?topicID=7459.topic

Future contestants
I know Wikipedia is not a rumour mill, but should the names of the teams spotted so far be put somewhere on the page or do we wait until they are comfirmed on screen. the teams in the spoilers could be decoys?????? but at this stage!--Irishboi 01:30, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * IMO, the reasoning to hold off is that we do not have a strong confirmation on all 12 teams racing. While we could put up a partial list, people will be wanting to add in the missing gaps with unverified spoiler info as it could easily be decoy teams.  We'll likley have a full list within a month from CBS direct, which begs no question of who's racing or not. --Masem 02:01, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

CBS will probably have an official site and/or press release within the next month, considering the show premieres in Feb. 2007. No need to add speculation and filling in the gaps based on personal guesses or assumptions.

I'd also suggest using more reliable sources when these photos are republished in another source. --Madchester 07:02, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Filming dates
I'm sensing how to someone so sure about filming dates ended while CBS doesn't officialy released the date racers racing. Anyone can explain or any source can as evidence? --Aleen f 1 03:39, 22 December 2006 (UTC)