Talk:The Amazing Race 16

Rumors about race route
As of this date, no reliably sourced information about this season's race route has been released. We do have reliably sourced info that racers have been spotted during filming, and the text reflects this. Please do not add information about the route until it is released, even if the text is commented out. Per WP:MOS, invisible comments are for editors to communicate issues to each other when it is more convenient than using the talk page. They are not for placeholder text to be added to the article later;that's what the sandbox is for. KuyaBriBri Talk 15:36, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

I have also, for now, removed the statement that Caitlin Upton is participating in TAR 16, as it is sourced to a Huffington Post article that cites a dead link to a South Carolina newspaper, and explicitly states the SC newspaper's source is a fan forum. I'm leaving the statement about the two Big Brother contestants for now as it is supported with a picture and, though I don't recognize them having never watched BB, I'm going to assume the writer is correct. KuyaBriBri Talk 15:45, 9 December 2009 (UTC)


 * race route -> must see [] -> thai language translation to english language. 111.94.25.210 (talk) 16:46, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia in another language is not a reliable source. I don't understand Thai, but it appears that that article is not adequately sourced either; I'll leave that determination to the folks who edit over there. KuyaBriBri Talk 16:50, 9 December 2009 (UTC)


 * It apparently the route comes from Thai article which particularly hoax and Wikipedia is not for false thoughts. ApprenticeFan  talk  contribs 04:25, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Teams are go!


Don't have time now, I'm sure someone will create the cast list today though.. --M ASEM (t) 13:34, 21 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I created it already. ApprenticeFan  talk  contribs 14:44, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Unaired penalty on Leg 2?
When Louie & Michael arrived at the mat Phil informed them they were "the 9th team to arrive", which is usually the script when that team has incurred a penalty. Of course this is just speculation on my part and we couldn't add it to the article without a reliable source, which is what we did with an unaired penalty on TAR 15. Just something to keep an eye on. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 15:11, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Intersection on Leg 4 and how to mark it.
If anyone saw the end of Leg 3 in a preview to Leg 4, Phil clearly states there is an Intersection and a clear indication of the Intersecion sign, however unlike the past two times it has happened, it will occur with 8 teams? Any ideas on what kind of marks will we use?70.145.210.18 (talk) 02:05, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

If you're talking about in the Race Summary of Episode 4, one would assume the standard intersection icon as seen in Season 10 for example would be used. Then anything note worthy would be added into the results table, but that would be if anything out of the ordinary occurs. 82.15.8.80 (talk) 11:31, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Elimination Station
I checked it on the article and it says there are the first six teams are on sequesterville instead of regular five done it by IP editors. Perhaps in internet forums, there are first five teams have been check on Elimination Station. Could this be reverted to five by some regular editors? Thanks. ApprenticeFan talk  contribs 23:48, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I say for now we remove any reference to five or six and re-add it when the first team to call in instead of going to the villa does so. As it is currently, stating that there will be 5 or 6 teams at Sequesterville is pure speculation. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 00:51, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

"Church of Massiges"
I'm not sure why this entry was removed as it was its own route marker. Also, I cannot seem to find the name of the church in question. "L'Eglise de Massiges" isn't showing up anywhere online. However, there is this.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 04:38, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

VERDUN???
Anybody else notice at the Pit-stop after the WWI leg. The sign at the Pit-stop said Verdun, France?--Subman758 (talk) 04:06, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

titles
I corrected the title of the 6th episode. CBS.com schedule seems to have problems with apostrophes. In the past, we had things like  ' Your Butt and 're Fighting the Germans, Right?. In these cases, look at the CBSPressExpress schedule. --SimoneMLK (talk) 13:41, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting the episode title. Looks like CBS Schedule have problems, but well. Evan Weinstein 10:33, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

How big was the bottle?
Leg 6 currently says that the Tower challenge involved a magnum of champagne. What I saw on TV looked much larger than a magnum. Can we get a RS for how big the gigantic bottle was? --A More Perfect Onion (talk) 14:32, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Fast Forward
Did Phil say that this was the only fast forward of the race? I don't recall him saying so, meaning that could there be an unaired, unused fast forward in an earlier leg? 99.226.221.195 (talk) 06:21, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Well spotted, Phil just introduces the fast forward, talks about the Singapore flyer before it cuts right back into the race, no mention at all about it being the only fast forward of the race, for anyone wanting to check, Fast forward stuff is found right near the start of the leg, after Dan and Jordan find Allan Wu. Flameheart121 (talk) 03:06, 19 April 2010 (UTC)


 * According on the ninth episode, the Fast Forward clue begins first before Detour (can not change between FF and Detour, it causes WP:3RR). Dan & Jordan are the first arrive to see Allan Wu and got the clue contained Fast Forward and Detour. They decided to use Fast Forward. Jet & Cord and Louie & Michael are the next teams to open the Detour clue. ApprenticeFan  talk  contribs 22:50, 24 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, ApprenticeFan, I think the subject is whether or not the Fast Forward is the only one this season. Phil didn't explicitly say it, so we don't know if a second fast forward leg was available in earlier seasons.  Plus, there may still be time for yet another one.  Tahna Los (talk) 20:38, 25 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry Tahna Los, according to The Amazing Race article, the Fast Forward had been decreased to 1 from 2 in season 14. According to season 14 article, there was an unaired only Fast Forward which it did not used. The earlier Fast Forward doesn't apply WP:RS, provide source if you have an earlier FF from a post-race interview from an eliminated team. Thanks. ApprenticeFan  talk  contribs 23:11, 25 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Point taken, but let's wait until the race is over first before deciding it is the only FF or not. Tahna Los (talk) 01:06, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

As I said in my response I did find it odd that no mention of it being the only fast forward was mentioned by Phil, it's been done on other seasons, but if it has been confirmed that only 1 fast forward exists by the rules, I'll accept that Flameheart121 (talk) 01:25, 26 April 2010 (UTC)


 * One other thing to ApprenticeFan, the note stating that the number of Fast Forwards was reduced to 1 in Season 14 was an uncited reference. FYI. Tahna Los (talk) 13:58, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Someone threw out the "citation needed" because there is no reference that it has been reduced to one...Playsfair234 (talk) 19:13, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Fast Forward Before Detour?
I think we need a topic, I know it's a no brainer guys, as it's been done in every Amazing Race but I noticed people are editting in the fast forward before the detour, how should it be on the page? If we can come to a common agreement, then we could just cite that we've discussed this, and revert any edits placing it first. Personally I think the Detour came first, it can be confusing sure but I think the brothers just pulled out the FF info first, in my eyes the Detour should always be the Number 1 task, the FF should come afterwards as its an optional task to complete the leg quicker. We've done this on every Amazing Race, so I don't think TAR16 should be any different. Opinions? Flameheart121 (talk) 21:48, 1 May 2010 (UTC)


 * No. It should not to change due to editing conflicts. Do not change due to consensus editing. ApprenticeFan  talk  contribs 23:46, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

I think we should edit the FF before the detour because if not, people will think the teams get their FF clue after finishing the detour.Wowovr2 (talk) 02:34, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Total number of countries visited
I'm not sure if this has been brought up before or not, but I had a question about the total number of countries visited. How come the article currently says 10? It would have been nice to have had 10, but I only count 9 (including the US). With tonight's penultimate leg staying in Shanghai and then the finale moving back to the US, that has 9 countries, right? I would edit the article to read that, but seeing as how it has read 10 for a while, someone might revert me. What's the consensus on this? UWAFanatic05 (talk) 19:05, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Leg 1: USA-Chile (2 countries), Leg 2: Chile (2 countries), Leg 3: Chile-Argentina (3 countries), Leg 4: Argentina-Germany (4 countries), Leg 5: Germany-France (5 countries), Leg 6: France (5 countries), Leg 7: France-Seychelles (6 countries), Leg 8: Seychelles-Malaysia (7 countries), Leg 9: Malaysia-Singapore (8 countries), Leg 10: Singapore-China (9 countries), Leg 11: China (9 countries), Leg 12: China-USA (9 countries) = Total 9 countries. I also count 9 countries, i don't know why the article say 10 countries. Gonzalochileno (talk) 19:15, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Why is the detour first?
I just want to know why everyone said it's the detour first. Dan & Jordan was the first team to get the FF clue and the detour clue. They chose to use FF. So it should be the fast forward first. Why all of you said that the detour's first? Moreover, if you put the detour first, people will think teams would get their FF clue after finishing the detour. So I think we should put the FF clue first.Wowovr2 (talk) 03:49, 3 May 2010 (UTC)


 * That the change of detour/roadblock first before FF has been since season 5 where had only 2 Fast Forwards in one season, which changed from all legs (excluding the final legs) in earlier seasons. ApprenticeFan  talk  contribs 04:48, 3 May 2010 (UTC)


 * But people will misunderstand that teams would get the FF clue after finishing the detour. It's just confusing.Wowovr2 (talk) 12:35, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

So, the reason it can't be changed is "because we've always done it that way"? Sure, there should be consistency in the articles for the different seasons, but that doesn't mean nothing can ever be changed--especially if it's a change to a better way. Just go back and change the previous seasons to the new, better way and then they are all the same again. When the teams get a fast forward clue in the same packet as another clue (such as detour) they make the decision whether to attempt the fast forward before they go to whatever the other task is. If the detour is listed before the fast forward, it will look to a reader as if the detour was done, then the clue to the fast forward was received. The nature of the fast forward - skipping all other tasks - means that the reverse is not true. If a team successfully completed the fast forward, we know they didn't do any of the tasks listed between the fast forward and the pit stop. LarryJeff (talk) 16:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah! We should change for the better.Wowovr2 (talk) 03:31, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

So do we have an agreement??Wowovr2 (talk) 10:51, 5 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I intended to report this user causing WP:3RR in Leg 9 section. I may report it to WP:AN3. ApprenticeFan  talk  contribs 12:33, 7 May 2010 (UTC)


 * To ApprenticeFan: Firstly, we don't have an edit war. Secondly, you undid my version because I'm causing WP:3RR but actually, I've just undid twice within the past 24hours and I've stop editting afterwards and you said I've caused 3RR? Thirdly, you didn't participate in the discussion and I thought you tacitly agreed. I said So do we have an agreement?, and you ignore me.Wowovr2 (talk) 10:01, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Page starting to look trivial...
I've begun to notice that the Development & Filming section is starting to look like what we done in the first few seasons, listing 'notable' information out. The Intersection should be noted along with the U-Turn/FF deal + the Double Roadblock, but I don't believe that Jet & Cord's accomplishment of being the 1st team to be 1st after completing the leg with the Speed Bump should be noted - almost like a trivia spot. Also I think we should combine the appearance the of the shortest man with the tallest man alive (at the time) into one sentence. I'm just concerned it is starting to look like past seasons where we redid many of those articles.Playsfair234 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:22, 3 May 2010 (UTC).
 * But Phil clearly said that the coyboys had made a new record. I think it should be noted.Wowovr2 (talk) 03:33, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Cowboys
If a motivated editor was interested in creating articles for Cord McCoy and Jet McCoy (both redirects to the TAR16 article as I type this), there are plenty of reliable sources to establish their notability per WP:ATHLETE stretching back more than a decade. Here's a Sports Illustrated article from 1998, for example. - Dravecky (talk) 20:33, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't Dan & jordan be penalized for not travelling in the business class?
Shouldn't Dan & jordan be penalized for not travelling in the business class?Wowovr2 (talk) 06:42, 14 May 2010 (UTC)


 * No, they don't travel in business class. They were actually sit on first class and there is no penalization. ApprenticeFan  talk  contribs 10:57, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Racers are required to buy tickets in economy/coach class. A penalty only applies if they purchase business class or first class tickets at business class or first class prices. There is no penalty if they purchase economy tickets and then get a free upgrade to business or first class. Azaria and Hendekea of TAR 12 hinted that the penalty for paying above economy fare is 24 hours. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 20:15, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Maximum number of Roablocks
I forgot which Race had the interview where one of the racers confirmed they each could do a maximum of 7 Roadblocks. The show just stopped mentioning "Each team member can only do a total of 6 Rodadblocks." So, that is already covered long ago. What Race 16 basically just did is confirm on air what we already knew. But if somebody is going to be anal about it, here is the interview with Brent & Caite in the Seattle PI TV Guide: Amazing Race's Caite and Brent: Carol and Brandy Were "Complete Bitches" dated May 12, 2010:

TVGuide.com: Why did you do the Roadblock, Brent? Aren't you not allowed to do more than six? Caite: You can actually do 7-5 or 6-6, so he took it. I was like, "OK, whatever. I'm completely drained."

--Destron Commander (talk) 01:22, 16 May 2010 (UTC) Not to mention in Season 17, 7 roadblock completion does not have the penalty. Brook (of Brook & Claire) and Thomas (of Jill & Thomas) did 7 roadblock is all right. If a member does 8 or more roadblocks it did receive penalty. Remember that each member can did a maximum of 7, not more than 8. This rules changed since Season 6 (Singaporeandy (talk) 11:45, 16 January 2011 (UTC))

Is there an error?
Why there's so many "中文" in the language? Is there an error? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wowovr2 (talk • contribs) 13:39, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, and it's caused by you adding an interlanguage link to TAR clue. Any such link on a template must be inside to prevent it from showing up on every page that transcludes the template (multiple times if the template is transcluded multiple times, as in this case). Derlay (talk) 08:16, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

WTF happened?
All of the TAR Clue templates on ALL the Race pages have screwed up somehow. It looks like someone messed up the formatting or something. Now there's a space after every clue, and if another image immediately follows said clue it appears in a "text box". This is CHAOS! 174.1.48.24 (talk) 05:42, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * That's fixed now. Derlay (talk) 07:28, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

United States...of America?
Hey, just a random thought here. If we're listing China as People's Republic of China, then shouldn't we also list the USA as United States of America as opposed to just United States? 174.1.48.24 (talk) 00:25, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

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Amazing Race 18 Results
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 * See response at Talk:The Amazing Race 17 and please post any response there. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 14:31, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

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