Talk:The Amazing Race Australia 1

Application
This is the applicant form: http://au.tv.yahoo.com/the-amazing-race/ Please consider it to be added to the article, as some new infos are in the application. 118.136.62.177 (talk) 18:01, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Route Markers
Channel seven has updated their website with a glossary of route markers - route info's, roadblocks, detours, non-elimination legs with a description of the Marked for elimination penalty, yields, u-turns and the express pass. As a result I've included those back into the page. Ovalorange (talk) 06:21, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Separate article into seasons?
I was wondering if it's alright to separate it into seasons (e.g. The Amazing Race Australia 1)? 115.64.53.181 (talk) 12:12, 23 May 2011 (UTC) This format would be similar to the US and Asia.
 * Probably a bit premature at this stage. Would be best until a 2nd season is announced. smjwalsh (talk) 14:00, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It's completely official now - they're calling for contestants for Season 2....220.236.78.209 (talk) 13:03, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * We do not need to move this article and make a page solely for the series on its own. There's not that much coverage that requires that we have a page at The Amazing Race Australia 1, but there will be a The Amazing Race Australia 2 sometime in the future.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 18:24, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Can we open this section all over again because the second season has an article of its own and the original article will move into the newer first season article? And so, if the article will move in few weeks/months, it will be similar to US, Asia and Latin America articles. For example, the former article of Survivor Philippines had moved to a newer second season article had announced in 2009. ApprenticeFan  work 09:33, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Legal rules on my edit
1. do not phish leg 8 on The Amazing Race Asia 4 when during leg 1. all the task and some sequence, locations, and rules are phishingly the same. do not say that. 2. For that penalty note, it is super strongly recommended to look at the Latin Version's season 1, Asian version season 3, American version season 10 and 18, and infact i hate to see this vandalised nor removed. we dislike that. this rule is applied at 14 feb 2011. 3. i hate to make myself being noted, but i will say keep this at once. thanks you so much (Singaporeandy (talk) 14:19, 1 June 2011 (UTC))
 * Don't think too highly of yourself. Trivia comparing this version to other versions is useless in the long run.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 01:02, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Legs for every episode
I had not noticed that I forgot to add Under construction template, I will add on every new leg to analyze Detour, Roadblock and Additional task information. ApprenticeFan work 23:55, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * This is not necessary, really.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 01:02, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Please do not put false information
How dare you those people who switched alana and mel's names for nathan and tyler's names when i looked a few days ago. Seeing Nathan and Tyler's namea on the eliminated list nearly made me so angry! How could they have done so well and then failed? But then I realised that Alana and Mel were not eliminated as shown in the latest episode. Now I check today and everything is as I thought. Nathan and Tyler were NEVER eliminated! So those ppl who put up false information, please the table of elimination results should not be messed around with. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jhgenius01 (talk • contribs) 01:03, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Please somebody fix Leg 7 locations
Leg 7 locations are mostly incorrect, most of it happened in Prague, detour in Plzeň and the rest is OK. It should look like this:
 * Prague (Dancing House)
 * Prague (Štvanice Stadium)
 * Prague (St. Nicolas Church)
 * Plzeň (Pilsner Urquell Brewery)
 * Kutná Hora (Church of the Assumption of Our Lady and Saint John the Baptist)
 * Kutná Hora (Church of Bones)


 * Fixing.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 20:52, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Czorstyn or Czorsztyn
Hi, I'm from Poland. I don't have publishing rights so I put this in here hoping someone will see it and change it. In the episode the village near Cape Stylchen was called Czorstyn. However, it is wrong and should be Czorsztyn. Tougher to pronounce, but correct. Here's a proof: Czorsztyn 178.235.31.150 (talk) 19:23, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I will fix it. In the future, type editrequested without the "tl|" followed by your requested change.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 19:26, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Who performed the roadblock in the first half?
Hi guys, can you please put a note that it is unknown which team members did the roadblock on the first half of this seventh leg? (Only for Sam & Renae, Dave & Kelly and Matt & Tom) Thank you very much. Gonzalochileno (talk) 19:55, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Easy enough.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 20:02, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It was shown in the recap at the beginning of the Poland episode: Sam, Kelly and Tom. 178.235.31.150 (talk) 20:57, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, it seems that the Roadblock counts haven't been updated anyway. Can we have a correct tally so we can update everything?— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 22:32, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Fix Leg 7
I am from Australia and have just seen 'Leg 7'. It wasn't a double length leg, it was 2 back-to-back legs. I know this because at the Polish castle Grant says it is the 8th Pitstop, not the 7th. Could somebody please fix this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheCuffling (talk • contribs) 23:46, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Was there a prize after episode 7 like in the last US edition where they had two back to back legs? If so, I will fix everything.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 23:48, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

There was no prize for leg 7. --TheCuffling (talk) 04:02, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
 * In the fourth season of The Amazing Race Asia host Allan Wu said that the pit stop in Sydney, Australia (Hyde Park) was the 7th Pit Stop, as the other Australian Pit Stop (Kangaroo Point, Queensland) was the 8th. Although the host of the Australian leg had a prize (bed making challenge - from the 7th), Allan said it isn't a double length leg. On the Kangaroo Point Pit Stop, one team won the bed making challenge in the "previous" leg. ApprenticeFan  work 11:18, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
 * This has always been a case of poor terminology. It's still a double-length leg, just like the ones in America's Seasons 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 and 14. 174.1.48.24 (talk) 08:53, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
 * At the 'midway point of the leg' Grant doesn't say that the leg is not over, he tells the teams to keep racing. In all the interviews with teams after the leg, they all acknowledged that it was 2 legs. This combined with my evidence above proves that it was 2 legs, not a double. --TheCuffling (talk) 21:40, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not a separate leg unless there's a prize at the end.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 22:21, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Precisely, Ryulong. The fact is that the foreign hosts have never really adopted the proper nomenclature of the "superlegs"...mostly because such a thing doesn't entirely exist. Indeed, Bowler's comment of "It's not over" proves that they are not two seperate legs. Although he does identify Poland's Pit Stop as the eighth one, he doesn't (to my knowledge) say anything about the LEG being the eighth one. It's still, therefore, the seventh leg.174.1.48.24 (talk) 01:29, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Back on the first episode, Grant said on the starting point and there are actually twelve legs. ApprenticeFan  work 02:22, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, then. If that actually is the 8th pitstop, then the Church of Bones must have been the 7th. In a double leg, the mid-way point is not a pitstop, and, in fact, it never has been. Now two separate legs would make the Church of Bones the 7th pit-stop. And, who said there had to be a prize? The no-break pit-stops have only occurred in 1 season so far. At that stage, The Amazing Race Australia was still in production. They would have only seen the first leg, and thought that apart from the Express Pass, there was no prize in a double. In the first leg of Australian version, the express pass is an additional prize and Sam & Renae also received A$10 000. Grant's comment of 'It's not over' doesn't have to refer to the leg, it could refer to the racing and the fact that there is no rest in-between legs. We'll know at the end of the race, anyway. If we keep it a double and the final leg is leg 11, that would prove that leg 7 was a double. If not, I'll accept the fact that I was wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheCuffing (talk • contribs)
 * No, TheCuffing. It is not officially the end of a leg and a Pit Stop unless there is a prize given to the 1st place finisher. In TAR18 where there were two "Hi, keep racing" Pit Stops the first place teams received prizes. This is a two-parter because there is nothing to state it is two legs despite your continuous attempts at convincing us otherwise.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 18:02, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * True, however, there is also nothing that states it is a double-leg. In the actual episode, it was un-defined. --TheCuffling (talk) 08:42, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The show never calls it a double leg. We have to determine based on what we can iner from the show as to whether or not it was two legs without a break or a double length leg. All evidence points to double length.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 17:53, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

I agree with TheCuffling. This website currently shows that there are 11 legs in this race. Yet, at the starting line and throughout the shows promo, the recurring statement is 12 legs. This would show that in order for the 12th leg to occur, the 'double' would have to be split in two. Ryulong, you state that in order for the leg to be complete a prize must be awarded. This is not true. For the first 7 legs of the American edition prizes only appeared in some legs. Plus, in the 4th edition of the Asian franchise, the double leg has a prize at the mid-point, yet that is not the end of the leg. Plus, it is not true that all evidence points to a double as a double length leg is never mentioned in the show. Many contestants, however, acknowledge it as 2 legs. It would seem that all evidence points to 2 legs, as there is no evidence to suggest that it is a double apart from your guess that all legs must end with a prize. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.213.205.121 (talk) 06:51, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not about all legs having to end with a prize, but more it being standard in The Amazing Race to say when a host tells the teams to keep racing then the leg itself isn't over. Which is true, Phil, Allan, have all told teams to keep racing in prior Seasons, he doesn't actually check you in formally, there is no mandatory rest period, it proves the leg isn't over. Also this contestants say its 2 legs is meaningless, as it could be a case of them assuming because they had to keep racing it was a new leg. It's called being new to The Amazing Race rules. Those who are familiar with the race prior to racing likely would of called this one long leg.82.15.8.146 (talk) 23:58, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

And considering that the show has awarded prizes at the end of every single episode except for the 7th one, episodes 7 & 8 are two parts of one leg.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 00:06, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Not to mention Grant Bowler says during the next episode preview *After a marathon leg, each team will be pushed to their limits*. That pretty much confirms its one long leg. By the way, I was agreeing with you Ryulong with my comment above. However during Episode 8 Jeff and Luke were talking like this was a new leg. They were obviously mistaken.82.15.8.146 (talk) 14:18, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Maybey there was a prize but it was unaired. Qantasplanes (Talk with me) 05:53, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
 * We can't assume that.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 18:45, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The Amazing Race rules always say that teams have a mandatory rest period at the end of every leg, they didn't get one with this leg, well if you count the long train journey at the start of Episode 8 as a rest period(I don't, as some teams had awkward sleeping arangements). If we were to go by the other TAR versions this is one long leg, until someone involved with the TAR Australia show says otherwise, I think we should just leave as double length until proven otherwise. I mean clearly Grant tells a team *It's not over* at the *pitstop* before giving the clue, if I remember right. 82.15.8.146 (talk) 04:13, 31 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Before I forget, as this is an important point. In the first few minutes of Episode 9 Grant refers to leg 7 as a marathon leg too, so when two episodes reference a marathon leg, and this is the only time its mentioned in the WHOLE race, one might think this is exactly how Grant describes. One long, marathon leg, I'm bringing this up for future reference if this is debated about further 82.15.8.146 (talk) 02:09, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Map
Could somebody please update the route map? It hasn't got Poland or Israel in blue or the red line going to them yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.51.64.71 (talk) 07:19, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops, sorry. Just Israel, Poland is already done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.51.64.71 (talk) 07:23, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Separating the article
As season/series 2 are now available for auditions, it's the time to separate the article to the first season/series page like the first season of the American version. ApprenticeFan work 15:00, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * We can do that when the time comes.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 17:36, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Applications have been long open for Season 2 so, technically, the time has come. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.238.114.125 (talk) 11:35, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Jericho, Israel?
Isn't Jericho a Palestinian city? Shouldn't it be: (Israel -> Palestine -> Israel) Gonzalochileno (talk) 20:05, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Palestine isn't technically a nation, even if the PA has governmental control over the West Bank. I think before we include Palestine we should determine if it even counts.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 20:17, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The international community recognises the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, part of Palestinian National Authority, not being an UN member doesn't mean it is not an existing country, same as Kosovo which is not UN members. It should be included as a country. The State of Palestine is recognised by nearly 120 countries, which is most of the countries of the world.Gonzalochileno (talk) 20:23, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The issue is whether or not it still counts as a separate nation that they travelled to, particularly because it's not the nation of Palestine.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 20:43, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay, keep it the same... It looks like you don't understand that the State of Palestine does exist, and Jericho is a Palestinian city, so it should be counted as another visited country... But whatever, you are the one who decides here... Gonzalochileno (talk) 20:45, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * What I am thinking is Kalya is located in the West Bank; Jericho is also located that area. I think adding West Bank would be appropriate, but I would not give it either a flag next to the name. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 20:47, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

I agree with you on that, because since both are located on the West Bank, but one is a Palestinian city and the other and Israeli settlement, but by putting both as on the west bank is enough... Gonzalochileno (talk) 20:50, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, the old city is in the West Bank anyway. And all of the places they visited are traditionally associated with Israel rather than the Palestinian territories.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 20:51, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Tasks
Many of the tasks and locations were the same as those done in Amazing Race Asia (I think all the tasks in Lombok, most in Vietnam and Hong Kong/Macau were the same), is this something worth mentioning? Hzh (talk) 10:39, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * No.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 18:34, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Whatever. Just an oddity because I have never seen it done before in other Amazing Race shows to completely copy the tasks even down to the clues that take some time to work out (for example the "holey statue" clue in Prague was used in Season 2 of Amazing Race Asia). Note to future Amazing Race Australia contestants - watch Amazing Race Asia first. Hzh (talk) 20:12, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Countries visited
It says that there were 12 countries visited, but we all know there were 11 since Macau and Hong Kong are both part of China. In the final roadblock we also got to see 11 countries.

Should i edit it, or are we going to discuss? Because some people may think that Macau and Hong Kong are 2 different countries, and if we count them as 2 we could get a total of 12 countries visited. What do you think? Gonzalochileno (talk) 02:18, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * So the writer got a wrong number. And Hong Kong and Macau are not countries. They're Special Administrative Regions of the People's Republic of China. We list them like countries because of the cultural and political separation they exercise.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 02:21, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, they have to be noted as Macau and Hong Kong, rather than only China, because they have cultural connections with other countries (Portugal and the UK respectively), but they are still part of China, so it is definetely 11 countries. Thanks. Gonzalochileno (talk) 02:24, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Season 2
Season 2 was filming in Vancouver British Columbia Canada Today. (December 4, 2011) Lagerhog (talk) 04:30, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

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