Talk:The Apthorp

Ironwork
I can't find a published reference, but I'm pretty sure the outstanding ironwork was from Samuel Yellin.--Wetman (talk) 21:54, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: Moved to Apthorp (apartment building). (non-admin closure) Cnilep (talk) 01:20, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

The Apthorp → Apthorp (apartment building) – First, a search of the National Register of Historic Places website doesn't turn it up, so we can't use that as a basis for its proper name. But cited sources in the article from The New York Times to New York magazine call it "the Apthorp", with lowercase "t." I understand WP:COMMONNAME, but that doesn't apply to the indefinite article "The" — that's why we title the article White House even though people call it "The White House", or United States Capitol even though people call it "The Capitol Building" or "The U.S. Capitol." Standard Wikipedia article-title policy is not to use a non-proper-noun "the." Tenebrae (talk) 23:52, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Support. Article titles should rarely start with "The", and I see no reason to deviate from that in this case. Your examples confirm the standard. Knight of Truth (talk) 11:20, 11 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Also, with thanks to another editor who pointed me to a more easily navigable site to search for National Register of Historic Places entries, http://www2.elkman.net/nrhp/infobox.php, I see the formal name of the building is Apthorp Apartments. Should we use that or "Apthorp (apartment building)"? --Tenebrae (talk) 22:34, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * WP:DISAMBIG says that if use of the common name would require parenthetical disambiguation, it is preferable to use a naturally-disambiguating name that is less common. So "Arpthorp Apartments" would be better than "Apthorp (apartment building)", as the former has natural disambiguation. Knight of Truth (talk) 23:19, 11 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm all for that. Apthorp Apartments is actually preferable to me as well, but I was afraid of running afoul of WP:COMMON. We're in agreement. --Tenebrae (talk) 09:31, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Article name
See Talk:The Dakota for a discussion about using "the" in the name of an article about an NYC building. --Enkyo2 (talk) 14:43, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I have undone the move made here, since it was a NAC made after only three days of unadvertised discussion. The discussion is centralized at the link above. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:16, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Just as a point of order: I have no objection to moving the page back here and reopening the discussion, especially since it has gained the attention of two more editors. But, the discussion was on this talk page and transcluded at Requested moves from June 10-18th, where I found it under "Backlog". Unless I miss my guess, that is eight days of advertised discussion. Cnilep (talk) 01:29, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Name of the building
See also Talk:The Dakota which has a slightly different focus. --Enkyo2 (talk) 19:11, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Bad Link
Wikipedia has the most ridiculous links lately. At present, "Astor Court" in this article links to the well-known apartment condos INSIDE THE METROPOLITAN MUSEUM OF ART!?!?!? I am beginning to suspect that there is a robot at WikiP that reads the articles and creates these links indiscriminately. So I can click on the name of a movie showing in 2015 and go to an article on a TV-show from the 1950s or a novel from the 1930s. It's gotten completely indiscriminate, haphazard, and slipshod. If it IS a robot, shoot it please.2604:2000:C6AA:B400:9050:1F2D:2D6D:51C6 (talk) 19:27, 10 December 2015 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson
 * Why don't you fix it, insteadof complaining about it? BMK (talk) 23:49, 10 December 2015 (UTC)