Talk:The Archer School for Girls

Uniforms
do they wear uniforms?

Library resources
I noticed that during the rewrite that section was removed. May I inquire why? JoshuaZ 16:31, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Assistance requested
Hello, I'd like to ask for assistance with these articles. Because I know there are guidelines about contributing when there may be a potential conflict of interest, I want to disclose (as on my user page) that I am posting here in affiliation with and on behalf of The Archer School for Girls, the subject of this article. It has come to my attention that this article needs significant improvement, including citations and fact-based information. I aim to follow all the Wikipedia guidelines, including those for COI, and I would like to seek help from impartial editors to improve the page in this regard. I believe that there is definite room for improvement on the current article, but I am not making edits directly due to my working relationship with the company. Here are some possible additions/updates:

Jamie Lee Curtis’s daughter, Annie Guest, taught dance at Archer. http://www.bustle.com/articles/134652-who-is-annie-guest-jamie-lee-curtis-daughter-stuns-on-the-golden-globes-red-carpet
 * ❌ - If someone creates an article for her that can meet WP:GNG we can put her name in a 'Notable faculty' section. EyeTripleE (talk) 06:18, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

New Link for NSPA Online Pacemaker Award (link was dead): http://studentpress.org/nspa/2014-nspa-online-pacemaker-finalists-announced-2/
 * ✅ EyeTripleE (talk) 06:33, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Traditions and extracurriculars

Archer’s student-run publications include the Oracle, an online news site, (http://oracle.archeronline.org/), which won an NSPA Online Pacemaker Award (http://studentpress.org/nspa/2014-nspa-online-pacemaker-finalists-announced-2/), and Pillars of Salt (http://www.archer.org/page.cfm?p=876), a literary magazine produced by Upper School students.
 * Noted the award. I can't say much about the literary magazine unless it is noted by an independent source. I can broadly describe the extracurriculars if you can provide a source. EyeTripleE (talk) 06:46, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Academics

Middle School subjects include English, History, Math, Science, Modern World Language, Fitness and Wellness, Arts, Co-Curriculars, and Community Service. Upper School students may also study Visual and Media Arts, Human Development, take Independent Study, Honors, and AP courses. (https://issuu.com/archerschool/docs/curriculum_guide-15-16_with-cover) Archer partners with The Online School for Girls to offer additional AP, STEM, and language courses. (http://www.onlineschoolforgirls.org/community/our-schools/)

Archer has also partnered with organizations including XPRIZE and the Lemelson-MIT Program in STEM with the Archer XPRIZE Challenge to problem-solve food sustainability issues through innovation, and Archer’s InvenTeam, respectively. (Archer Students Accept XPRIZE Challenge http://www.laparent.com/school-news/archer-xprize; http://www.laparent.com/school-news/archer-inventeam-award)

Archer students received a Lemelson-MIT Program grant and were formally named an InvenTeamTM by the program for proposing a compact, faucet-mounted water meter to encourage awareness surrounding water consumption as part of the program’s 2015-16 InvenTeam initiative to to inspire young people to solve real-world problems through invention. Archer was one of 14 schools selected to receive a grant. http://www.laparent.com/school-news/archer-inventeam-award

Archer Students Accept XPRIZE Challenge http://www.laparent.com/school-news/archer-xprize
 * ✅ - Was this an extracurricular or part of normal academics? EyeTripleE (talk) 07:03, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Because of the sensitivity involved, I do not wish to edit this page directly. Please let me know if you would like to get involved, and if you have any questions that I can answer. I would appreciate any help that other editors can provide as there are a lot of improvements that can be made to make this a much better article and one that better reflects Wikipedia's guidelines. Please leave any messages here or on my talk page. Thanks, Ayoung0607 (talk)
 * Probably won't have time until May but I'll work on this again if no one else gets to it. EyeTripleE (talk) 17:47, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Obviously it didn't work out this summer but I haven't forgotten this. EyeTripleE (talk) 06:53, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Only took nine months but finally got around to this :) EyeTripleE (talk) 07:43, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Assistance requested
Hello, I'd like to ask for assistance with this article. Because I know there are guidelines about contributing when there may be a potential conflict of interest, I want to disclose (as on my user page) that I am posting here in affiliation with and on behalf of The Archer School for Girls, the subject of this article. It has come to my attention that this article needs significant improvement, including citations and fact-based information. I aim to follow all the Wikipedia guidelines, including those for COI, and I would like to seek help from impartial editors to improve the page in this regard. I believe that there is definite room for improvement on the current article, but I am not making edits directly due to my working relationship with the company. Here are some things that stand out to begin with:


 * The title of the article is Archer School for Girls, but the school's official name is The Archer School for Girls, as shown on the member list for the National Coalition of Girls Schools.
 * ✅ EyeTripleE (talk) 20:38, 6 January 2016 (UTC)


 * The introductory paragraph includes an error about the architect. I would recommend editing that line to read, "The school purchased the Eastern Star Home for Women, built in 1931 by William Mooser and Co." using this record from the Huntington Digital Library as a source. I would also make the suggestion that this information be moved under the Inspiration and history header for clarity.
 * I moved the information into the history section. I rephrased the paragraph slightly but I am unsure what you mean regarding the error. EyeTripleE (talk) 21:10, 6 January 2016 (UTC)


 * The Overview section is out of date. I would suggest updating the overview using information from Parent Pick's recent piece on Archer. The bullet points contain fact-based, current information. More overview information is also available on Digital Journal's review of the school.
 * ✅ I think EyeTripleE (talk) 00:12, 7 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Under the Inspiration and history section, Dr. Diana Meehan's book, Learning Like a Girl, already cited under Notes, can be used to further develop this paragraph and replace the information in the second paragraph that does not include a citation. Possible information for inclusion is: Archer was founded by Megan Callaway, Victoria Shorr, and Dr. Diana Meehan, all graduates of girls’ schools and all parents of daughters who were about to enter middle school, in 1995 in a converted Pacific Palisades dance studio with just over 30 sixth and seventh grade students. The school was relocated to its present site in Brentwood Village in 1999. Meehan’s book Learning Like a Girl: Educating Our Daughters in Schools of Their Own details the story of establishing the school, as well as making an argument for the benefits of same-sex education. In her book, Meehan explains how the school derived its name from the Greek goddess Artemis or Diana, Protector of Girls, and the concept of Artemis teaching girls in her protection to be self-sufficient and strong before rejoining society. Archer’s founders are all graduates of girls’ schools and all parents of daughters who were about to enter middle school. "
 * ✅ EyeTripleE (talk) 22:45, 6 January 2016 (UTC)


 * The Inspiration and history section may be further expanded to include information on one of Archer’s long standing traditions, the raising of a maypole each year in spring. The tradition began in 1981 when an anonymous donor arranged to have the maypole erected for the residents of the Eastern Star Home for Women. Archer has continued this tradition, with sixth graders performing a maypole dance on the last day of school.
 * ✅ EyeTripleE (talk) 22:58, 6 January 2016 (UTC)


 * I propose the addition of an Academics section with information about the number of classes Archer offers (155), including arts, languages, and science. The school also partners with the Online School for Girls to offer additional courses to students.
 * ✅ EyeTripleE (talk) 23:09, 6 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Under Academics or an Awards and recognition subheader, Archer has received media attention for its maker spaces, The Saban IDEAlab, and the MediaSpace from news outlets including Westside Today . Archer students have been awarded a Lemelson-MIT InvenTeam grant, received six Youth Arts Awards in 2014 , 14 Scholastic Art Award recognitions for 2015 , and an Online Pacemaker Award from the National Scholastic Press Association for the school’s online student-run newspaper, the Oracle. Archer's STEM program and STEM Symposium are also discussed in a Brentwood Patch article. The school's Film Festival has been covered by the Santa Monica Mirror and Digital Journal.
 * I'm not sure if compiling numbers for student achievements would be considered WP:OR. The Pacemaker link is dead. I added a blurb about the STEM and film programs. EyeTripleE (talk) 00:39, 7 January 2016 (UTC)


 * A possible list of links for an Athletics section includes and CalHiSports, Duke University, MaxPreps, the Los Angeles Times, Swarthmore College, and JD Media Group.
 * Is there any information about state championship appearances? We generally don't discuss individual players in these articles. EyeTripleE (talk) 21:25, 6 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Finally, there is potential for an In pop culture section, with Archer's feature in a story on the Tiger Beat website.
 * ❌ I am not really convinced this is notable enough to warrant inclusion. EyeTripleE (talk) 21:16, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Because of the sensitivity involved, I do not wish to edit this page directly. Please let me know if you would like to get involved, and if you have any questions that I can answer. I would appreciate any help that other editors can provide as there are a lot of improvements that can be made to make this a much better article and one that better reflects Wikipedia's guidelines. Please leave any messages here or on my talk page. Thanks, Sharifah.williams (talk) 00:42, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * If nobody gets to this before me I will take a look at this over the holidays. Bit crunched for time at the moment. EyeTripleE (talk) 19:37, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Ping me if you'd like to discuss anything. Cheers! EyeTripleE (talk) 00:41, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Promotional tone
This article reads a bit like an advertisement. Phrasing like 'state-of-the-art classrooms', 'gives Archer girls a deeper appreciation of the natural world', etc are totally inappropriate for wikipedia.

I've added a banner to the top of the article. This article needs cleanup by someone who is both impartial and knowledgable of the school. Киан (talk) 23:30, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Assistance requested
Hello, I want to be transparent here as I have been on my user page user page about my affiliation with the Archer School for Girls. I am posting here in affiliation with and on behalf of Archer. I only intend to suggest factual changes to improve citations and fact-based information on the page in alignment with the Wikipedia guidelines. Because of my affiliation with the school, I am posting here and suggesting additions/changes instead of making them directly.

I would like to ask for the help of impartial editors for this page given the ample room for improvement on the current article. Below are my recommendations:

-Under the Naming section, add: The founders chose the name Archer to signify a place where girls would be taught to be self-sufficient and strong – based on research specific to female learners. (Source: 'Learning Like a Girl,' written by Diana Meehan)

-Under History, add: Victoria Shorr went on to establish the Pine Ridge Girls' School in South Dakota as the first independent, culturally-based, college-prep school for girls on a Native reservation in the U.S. (Source: https://www.palisadesnews.com/shaping-education-on-pine-ridge-reservation/)

-Under Building and Location, add this sentence to the first paragraph: The building was decorated during the Depression by artisans and craftsmen (Source: 'Learning Like a Girl,' page 104).

-Also under Building and Location, remove the outdated section about the Academic Center construction and instead add: In August 2015, after four years of a rigorous and comprehensive public engagement and review process, the Los Angeles City Council unanimously approved The Archer School for Girls’ Campus Preservation and Improvement Plan. In December 2017, Archer broke ground on the construction of its Diana Meehan Center, which now has 30 classrooms, a kitchen, and a student center. The facility opened in 2019.

-The Traditions and Extracurriculars section can be expanded to include information about one of Archer's longstanding traditions, which is why I suggest adding: The annual Founders Day, celebrated in November, honors Archer's founders. Archer students gather in the Historic Courtyard to hear from the founders about Archer's early beginnings and the lessons they can take from the founders' boldness to make changes of their own in the world. (Source: The Oracle: https://archeroracle.org/43479/news/annual-founders-day-ceremony-puts-women-back-in-the-story/)

-Also under Traditions and Extracurriculars, this can be added to explain how Student Media at Archer works: Archer students capture their school's story through the Hestia's Flame yearbook and the Archer Oracle news site. Both are run independently of the school. The Oracle holds three Online Pacemakers, the most recent from 2019. Students can also contribute to the literary magazine Pillars of Salt. (I am suggesting adding this because it is completely factual and because student media is run independent from the Archer administration as a student-led organization with no prior review from the school.)

-Consider adding a section on Athletics as this is a part of the school experience as well: Archer offers the following California Interscholastic Federation (CIF) sanctioned sports for both Middle and Upper School athletes: Cross Country, Volleyball, Tennis, Basketball, Soccer, Softball, Swim, and Track. Equestrian is also offered and sanctioned by the Interscholastic Equestrian League (IEL). Upper School athletic teams belong to the Liberty League while Middle School teams compete in the Pacific Basin League (PBL). Archer soccer, Middle School basketball, and Middle School volleyball practice and compete on the Archer Sport Court, which underwent renovations in 2019.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by NRajw (talk • contribs) 00:00, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Reply 9-JAN-2020

 * ✅ The claim regarding the naming of the school was revised.
 * ❌ The other requested claims could not be added, either because they were promotional, or they were unreferenced by reliable, independent WP:SECONDARY sources.


 * 1) Claims which were unreferenced were omitted.
 * 2) A portion of the text which was insufficiently paraphrased from the source material was removed.
 * 3) The  maintenance template was removed.
 * (Pinging for their input on this change, as they are the editor who originally added the Tone template.)

Regards, Spintendo  01:35, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Reply 9-JAN-2020
Looks ✅ to me- Thanks for the updates! the article is significantly better in tone and much less verbose :) Киан (talk) 02:00, 10 January 2020 (UTC)